NorthstandRacoon
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Hinsh is not to be valued, he'll be with us his entire career, I feel it.
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[Albion] How much is Joao Pedro worth?
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um bongo molongo
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I don’t see any reason why Tony would sell Baleba for less than 90-100m.
Likewise Pedro for less than 70m.
Why would we sell for less?
£30m is chicken feed in the PL these days, especially for a striker.
At a time of significantly lower PL income, West Ham took a punt of £45m on Haller, that ended in tears. Pedro is PL proven.
Chelsea … most this season football writers and pundits have said if only they had reliable strikers.
My back of a fag packet numbers are a guestimate of the highest offer we might receive. I actually wonder if TB would say Hinshelwood is not for sale and really mean it.
£37.56 1/2p
based on todays fleabay average
which is about as realistic as anyone elses 'valuation'
based on todays fleabay average
which is about as realistic as anyone elses 'valuation'
It’s mad that that was a thing not so long ago.
Surrey Phil
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- Aug 3, 2010
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Put simply, we don’t need to sell at all & will only sell for big big money. It’s a good position to be in!
No, we didn't - and now we are frequently guilty of thinking that we'll automatically sell X for £70M, Y for £90M, 2 or 3 times what we paid for them, or whatever, just because that's what we think they should go for - even though no clubs are wanting to buy them for that money.
- Oct 17, 2008
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The beauty is not having a need to sell. If a player forces a move, ala Cucurella or Sanchez, we’ve received exceptional fees regardless. We even got a decent fee for Burn, a solid if unspectacular player desperate to move to his home team.
If a club targets a player, our starting negotiating position is “not for sale”. Which is an incredibly strong negotiating position to be in, when a player is performing well and has years on his contract to run.
An unprecedented record on transfer profits, perhaps only Dortmund and Sporting Lisbon are in the same league?
2021/22 £62m
2022/23 £121m
2023/24 £110m
Burn? No - most of NSC thought we should have pushed the beheadies to £20M - although we appreciated the sentiment of letting Big Dan Burn join his boyhood club. Subsequent performances and every single Geordie supporter would agree that they got him for a bargain price.
Yes, it's a strong position until the potential buyers say, 'Sod it, we've got an alternative lined up; you can keep him' (until he puts in a transfer request and the whole apple-cart gets upset)!
- Oct 17, 2008
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I think we’ve proven we don’t do business exclusively on a player’s terms. The deal has to work for Tony and Paul. If they walk away? Good.
So, Newcastle and Burn wasn't a great deal for Newcastle and Burn? it was! ....... and the Mac Allister deal (engineered by the superb negotiating skills of Mac Allister senior in 2022; he may not have outdone TB, but he equalled him) wasn't more beneficial for Mac and Liverpool (should have been nearer £70M) than us? Okey-doke, whatever.
Our selling is good - bloody good most of the time. But just because NSC is adamant that a certain player is worth £XM - the fact is, he isn't. Not unless somebody wants to pay it. And he'll be worth considerably less if he (or his ever-greedy agent) want out. That's the real politick.
We can make a huge profit on a £5M-£10M player - not so much on a £30M-£40M one.
AstroSloth
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- Dec 29, 2020
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He got 20 goals and 3 assists last season across 40 games.
That's a good enough return to be worth far more than the £30m we paid for him, not to mention the fact he was injured for part of the season.
This season he currently has 7 goals and 7 assists in 23 games. His role has changed and he's been injured/out of form for much of the season but is still massively contributing.
João Pedro is worth at least £50m currently, and could be worth much more if he finds some consistency.
AstroSloth
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Where you get this idea I don't know.
If Pedro was available for between £30-40m then every club in the Prem and many abroad would be interested.
He'd improve every club in the league, whether that's as a starter or as a bench option depends on the club.
AstroSloth
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Which was £35m up front with £20m in add-ons and a sell on clause.
Not a bad deal considering he had 8 months + a one year option on his contract when he signed the extension with the release clause.
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I think the Mac deal was quoted in the more reliable press as £35m and £20m 'easily achievable' add ons. So I'm guessing the fee was £55m bearing in mind what Liverpool are about to achieve and his regular appearances. I think that was about right at the time, rather skewed by the over-pricing of the Caicedo fee and also the absurdity of the Cucurella fee. But that was CAT (Chelsea Added Tax)
Agreeing with you …. the seemingly low £35m met the release clause.
‘Dream come true’: Alexis Mac Allister completes £35m Liverpool move
Liverpool have completed the first part of their summer midfield rebuild by signing Alexis Mac Allister from Brighton for the eye-catching sum of £35m
www.theguardian.com
AstroSloth
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It's been widely reported that the £35m quoted was the initial fee.Agreeing with you …. the seemingly low £35m met the release clause.
‘Dream come true’: Alexis Mac Allister completes £35m Liverpool move
Liverpool have completed the first part of their summer midfield rebuild by signing Alexis Mac Allister from Brighton for the eye-catching sum of £35m
It wasn't a standard release clause and there were add-ons which totaled £20m + a sell on clause.