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[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......



Pavilionaire

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Chicken Run

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Pavilionaire said:
An understandable resignation, but she is being naive if she thought that Starmer would cut anyone else's budget but hers.

Starmer has a huge pool of MPs to promote from, and this will be an opportunity to promote someone on the rise. Dodds was his Shadow Chancellor so maybe she had a beef he gave her job to Reeves?
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Starmer is playing a blinder at present, I’m really starting believe he’s getting the pulse of the nation and steering HMS United Kingdom in the the right direction, both with his overseas negotiations and of course domestic, it won’t be long until those in other European countries start to look at us in a far more favourable light!
 


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nevergoagain said:
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'Another one'. Very good. As you're so attuned to things, perhaps you could enlighten us which other quasi-Cabinet Ministers have 'bitten the dust'...

... taps fingers
 


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Mellor 3 Ward 4 said:
Undestandable and I admire her for standing down.

I'm pleased SKS has increased the defence budget, but sad that overseas aid has been cut.

I'd rather we found a way of taxing to a decent level the online retailers that are killing our high streets.
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The only explanation I can summon up for this is that RR and SKS factored that taxing (or incorporating into tax) Big Tech (including Amazon) would be construed by 'the Negotiator-in-Chief' as a raid on US companies.
I cannot fathom up any other explanation, but am all ears.
 




SouthSaxon

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Machiavelli said:
The only explanation I can summon up for this is that RR and SKS factored that taxing (or incorporating into tax) Big Tech (including Amazon) would be construed by 'the Negotiator-in-Chief' as a raid on US companies.
I cannot fathom up any other explanation, but am all ears.
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When Vance speaks about the death of free speech in Europe, what he’s actually complaining about is the proposed regulation of American tech platforms.
 




beorhthelm

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Machiavelli said:
The only explanation I can summon up for this is that RR and SKS factored that taxing (or incorporating into tax) Big Tech (including Amazon) would be construed by 'the Negotiator-in-Chief' as a raid on US companies.
I cannot fathom up any other explanation, but am all ears.
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difficult to tax only "big tech" without including many other companies; difficult to tax companies based overseas, or dont report any profits in UK; applying online sales tax immediatly passed on to consumers.
 




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beorhthelm said:
difficult to tax only "big tech" without including many other companies; difficult to tax companies based overseas, or dont report any profits in UK; applying online sales tax immediatly passed on to consumers.
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Basing Corporation Tax on sales rather than profits would sweep up a substantial amount from Big Tech, especially Amazon.
 


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Machiavelli said:
Basing Corporation Tax on sales rather than profits would sweep up a substantial amount from Big Tech, especially Amazon.
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Would potentially get some like Amazon until they work out yet another loophole but unless you ringfence a Sales/Turnover tax to specific companies or types you are going to hammer those with high turnover low profit.
 


Rdodge30

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Good week for Sir Kier Starmer, made all the right moves in the U.S. showing how seriously he takes a trade deal and also taking the opportunity to manoeuvre Britain within the pecking order at NATO. Can’t help thinking that the State Visit was demanded by Trump in advance but either way it was a very smart solution.

Also the correct decision to find the defence funding from the international development budget.. there really was very little option to raid other ministerial budgets as Rachel Reeves is almost certain to have to do that after the financial statement in March.

Annalise Dodds, no matter how competent and effective a minister, will doubtless not be seen as much of a loss by No.10 as she has been peripheral for quite some time.

Her outrage that Starmer took the funding decision unilaterally at not through cabinet discussions is irrelevant- he has shown strength in leadership.

Deportation figures are strong alongside a crackdown on illegal workers as Yvette Cooper quietly but steadily pushes the border security bill through.
 




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Mellor 3 Ward 4 said:
Undestandable and I admire her for standing down.

I'm pleased SKS has increased the defence budget, but sad that overseas aid has been cut.

I'd rather we found a way of taxing to a decent level the online retailers that are killing our high streets.
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Beat me to it, fair play to her and it's not a dig at SKS for doing the right thing for the Uk

Just didn't agree and she left.
 










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Step by step, they're getting there.

'Britain’s factories have fallen behind eurozone counterparts for the first time in 19 months as Rachel Reeves’s tax grab hammers demand and triggers a wave of job cuts.

Activity in the manufacturing industry fell at its sharpest pace in 14 months, according to S&P Global’s purchasing managers’ index (PMI), a survey of businesses.

The PMI fell to 46.9 in February, down from 48.3 in January and so further below the 50 level that divides growth from contraction.

It means manufacturing in Britain is contracting even more quickly than in the eurozone, with its score of 47.6, for the first time since Aug 2023.'
 


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg19gx7vl4o - Not a Labour criticism directly but I hope these changes get looked at again as they will just stoke the fires of 2-tier justice in this country even more. I can to a point consider leniency for pregnant women but in all honesty don't commit crimes and it's not a problem, there should be an even hand applied to all.
 




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nevergoagain said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg19gx7vl4o - Not a Labour criticism directly but I hope these changes get looked at again as they will just stoke the fires of 2-tier justice in this country even more. I can to a point consider leniency for pregnant women but in all honesty don't commit crimes and it's not a problem, there should be an even hand applied to all.
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Another PR disaster from the Labour after a good week

She would have known this was coming and if she didn't she's not very good at her job
 


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