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[News] Mike Amesbury MP - Rocky VIII: Backbench Brawler



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Javeaseagull said:
I was told right at the start of my career that it was not about punishment, it was about rehabilitation. What is the point of banging up people for so many months or years and then sending them back out into society? Apart from a handful of people everyone comes out to resume their lives at some point.That seems to have got lost somewhere and our prisons are bursting at the seems. I thank my lucky stars that I am out of there.
Having said that I was also told that the deprivation of freedom was punishment. That I believe to be true.
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That is key with an expectation that people will learn from there mistake . Probably works for some but others are driven by their circumstances when they get out. if they have a habit and that hasn't been 'cured' then they they will reoffend so the next question is what do you do with frequent re-offenders .
 






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Is it PotG? said:
Walking free already.

https://news.sky.com/story/mike-ame...free-after-appealing-prison-sentence-13317984

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8yy0116y8o
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The Runcorn and Helsby MP, who admitted assault, was sentenced at Chester Magistrates' Court on Monday and sent straight to jail.

Hearing Amesbury's appeal against his sentence, the judge at Chester Crown Court said its length was "spot on" but agreed to suspend it.

Honorary Recorder of Chester Judge Steven Everett also ordered him to carry out 200 hours of unpaid work, undertake a 12-month alcohol monitoring requirement, go on an anger management course and carry out 20 days of rehabilitation work.
 
















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Wallace said:
I must congratulate our PM on finding the time in his busy schedule to get his mate off the hook.
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Hold on, he is the wrong kind for 'Two tier Keir', isn't he? I thought as a white middle-aged heterosexual man he is supposed to be thrown in jail while brown people get off?
 




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Commander said:
Hold on, he is the wrong kind for 'Two tier Keir', isn't he? I thought as a white middle-aged heterosexual man he is supposed to be thrown in jail while brown people get off?
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Quite apart from the idea that Starmer can overrule the whole of an independent judiciary system for 'his mate' :facepalm:

Gwylan said:
Tell me you know nothing about politics or the legal system, without saying that you nothing about politics or the legal system
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It's a cracker isn't it, the last thing Starmer wanted would have been for the sentence to be suspended :laugh:



Back in the real world, I don't like the fact that they've suspended the sentence but I believe it will make no difference to the recall petition going ahead.
 
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Wallace said:
I must congratulate our PM on finding the time in his busy schedule to get his mate off the hook.
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I trust you have evidence to back that assertion up?
 


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Let's not be sidelined here. Regardless of political persuasion and colour of rosette, the optics are terrible here for all concerned.

One wonders what's significantly changed in the last few days.

If the length of the sentence was "spot on", there's precious little wriggle room here for it to have been suspended on appeal.

Even after the appeal, I still stand by my position that his resignation would have been the only honourable action once the sentence was passed.

Violently assaulting a constituent whom you represent is beyond the pale regardless of whether they support you or not.
 








Thunder Bolt

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RandyWanger said:
Anyone still saying theres not a 2 tiered system in the UK at all?
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There always has been. An Albion fan got 6 months for a first time offence because a politician reported it to the police.

Rich powerful people get away with crimes, and poor people don't.
 


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RandyWanger said:
Anyone still saying theres not a 2 tiered system in the UK at all?
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Er.....
Yes.
:shrug:

But you can call me clueless and Spence can post a laughing emoji, of course.
It's a free country.

Oh, hand on, scrub that.
You can't say anything these days without being thrown in jail.
 








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Thunder Bolt said:
There always has been. An Albion fan got 6 months for a first time offence because a politician reported it to the police.

Rich powerful people get away with crimes, and poor people don't.
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One system, different quality of brief, based on wealth of client.

There is an argument for having prosecution and defense paid for from taxes.
But nobody wants an increase in tax.
Or shitty minimum wage lawyers who couldn't care less and balls everything up.

But anyway, let's not drop the 'two tier' trope because it gives the barking tory contingent a frisson of excitement,
and nobody wants to deprive the barking wing of tory support of a crumb of comfort in this time of hardship. Poor lambs.

(Personally I would have liked to have seen this oaf get 6 months, but it is what it is, isn't it?)
 


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