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[Travel] You can’t learn to park there, Sir!



The Clamp

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I think this is very mean.
But is it enforceable?

We all had to start somewhere and this is a safe place to learn, I think.

There are three cars in total in that car park right now. Why not let Learners in?

Or are they a menace?

Discuss…
 










jackanada

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Jul 19, 2011
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Brighton
Given the disgraceful company involved I suspect they added this sign after a frustrated driving instructor went all the way to court to get a ticket rescinded.
 






Chicken Run

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I think this is very mean.
But is it enforceable?

We all had to start somewhere and this is a safe place to learn, I think.

There are three cars in total in that car park right now. Why not let Learners in?

Or are they a menace?

Discuss…
If it is private land i guess they’ve had an influx of L drivers in there pissing the owners off 🤷
 






Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
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Brighton
OK, so a learner is trying to park a car and puts a scratch in your car. Changed your mind?
Also, is it a free car park, guess not by the signage, so do they pay to enter?
We get lots of learners down our large estate, at least four at any one time. Firstly they drive very slowly so you get stuck behind them then the instructor tells them to do a 7 point turn on the main exit road thus blocking said road. I'd accept the odd one or two drivers but so many is crazy.
 


Brovion

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I think this is very mean.
But is it enforceable?

We all had to start somewhere and this is a safe place to learn, I think.

There are three cars in total in that car park right now. Why not let Learners in?

Or are they a menace?

Discuss…
Yeah I think it's a bit mean. My first official driving lesson was on a Saturday afternoon in early 1976; it was in the, deserted, old War Memorial car park on what was then called the Churchill Industrial Estate in Lancing. (Think it's been built on now, certainly the war memorial went). Even with the dual controls I thought it was great that a raw beginner got to have his first go in a 'safe space'. (He did let me drive home though!)
 






ROSM

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Dec 26, 2005
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OK, so a learner is trying to park a car and puts a scratch in your car. Changed your mind?
Also, is it a free car park, guess not by the signage, so do they pay to enter?
We get lots of learners down our large estate, at least four at any one time. Firstly they drive very slowly so you get stuck behind them then the instructor tells them to do a 7 point turn on the main exit road thus blocking said road. I'd accept the odd one or two drivers but so many is crazy.
You are more likely to get a scratch after they've passed the test if they haven't had enough opportunity to practice their parking while in a dual control vehicle with a qualified instructor.

We all have to learn somewhere and given test routes are so few and far between now (for example none in brighton and hove) it's a bi product of poor investment in services by previous govts

The irony of private enterprise thwarting the repercussions on another tory decision
 
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Coldeanseagull

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Mar 13, 2013
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Coldean
OK, so a learner is trying to park a car and puts a scratch in your car. Changed your mind?
Also, is it a free car park, guess not by the signage, so do they pay to enter?
We get lots of learners down our large estate, at least four at any one time. Firstly they drive very slowly so you get stuck behind them then the instructor tells them to do a 7 point turn on the main exit road thus blocking said road. I'd accept the odd one or two drivers but so many is crazy.
As a former ADI, I can think of no instance where the instructor would let the learner get that close to a parked car, or allow the pupil to baulk traffic on an exit road. The excess of learner vehicles in an area at any one time is an issue where you are correct though and one where I fully sympathise with the residents.
 






dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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The labyrinth of cul-de-sacs and junctions on Industrial estates are great places to practice when everyone has gone home.
They are a great place to build confidence for new learners without the pressure of fast traffic and impatient drivers.
Local industrial estate here has a few ‘no learner drivers’ signs up…….
 


Washie

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Jun 20, 2011
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Eastbourne
I remember a store I used to work at had a time period you couldn't use it for that as it was usually the busy period. They were fine with it if it wasn't busy or closed, but during busier times, a learner could be taking up a space with very limited parking spaces.
 


studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
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Given that parking in a parking bay forms part of the driving test, how are learners supposed to pass this part of the test, if they are unable to practice.

There always seems to be a learner in my local Sainsburys car park, but they are not an issue, as the instructor always has them at the far end of the car park away from the entrance, and always reversing into spaces with no parked car in the bays next to the one that they are reversing into.
 


Jovis

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Mar 30, 2012
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Started a similar thread back in 2021 when my daughter got a fine for briefly stopping in an empty rail station car park, and practicising a few parking manoeuvres in the bays ahead of her driving test. With help from LadySeagull my daughter appealed, and the company decided not to contest it.
 




PascalGroß Tips

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Jan 29, 2024
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Given that parking in a parking bay forms part of the driving test, how are learners supposed to pass this part of the test, if they are unable to practice.

There always seems to be a learner in my local Sainsburys car park, but they are not an issue, as the instructor always has them at the far end of the car park away from the entrance, and always reversing into spaces with no parked car in the bays next to the one that they are reversing into.
I popped to Tesco Holmbush this morning. As I was driving to the the usual section I park in, a car pulled right out in front of me from another section without looking. I was on the brakes and horn. I then realised that the driver - who hadn't looked and just pulled out - was a driving instructor :facepalm:
 


drew

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OK, so a learner is trying to park a car and puts a scratch in your car. Changed your mind?
Also, is it a free car park, guess not by the signage, so do they pay to enter?
We get lots of learners down our large estate, at least four at any one time. Firstly they drive very slowly so you get stuck behind them then the instructor tells them to do a 7 point turn on the main exit road thus blocking said road. I'd accept the odd one or two drivers but so many is crazy.
Yes, because learners are constantly damaging other vehicles :facepalm:
 


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