BN41Albion
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There's been many times over the last few weeks that I've cursed the fact that that bullet wasn't fired an inch to the right. Absolute stain on humanity
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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Cotton Socks
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- Feb 20, 2017
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I'm on page 1064, #21,280. This thread has moved so fast the I can't keep up.
I'm not going to be childish and call him cun*ing fergus but he does have a point about who are prepared to go into fight.
When all this started my eldest said he'd like to go over & help out at the time, when there were heavy hints that they may need it. I said I'd take his passport away & did hide it. He's not up for a fight but was disgusted by what was happening to Ukraine, it's a country he loves. About 3 years before he had a Russian friend at college who had come to the UK after his 'service', After the invasion of Ukraine my eldest was shocked by the things his 'friend' was posting, I don't think he deleted him from his social media as he wanted to have an insight as to what was happening. But basically even though my eldest was/is old enough to make his own decisions the parent in me stepped in and said no & that he wasn't going there for any reason (he'd be shit at actual fighting).
If push came to shove & there was ever conscription that meant my kids had to step up & fight. I'd 'kidnap' them, I'd hide them & keep them there, whether they wanted to fight or not. My job as a parent is to keep my kids safe. They may have more experience with Call Of Duty than me, but I'd prefer to go myself rather than them. We'd all be just as useless as each other in combat, it would be mad to send them off to fight.
The fact I'm even thinking about this is madness, how in 2025, can I be worried about conscription.
I'm not going to be childish and call him cun*ing fergus but he does have a point about who are prepared to go into fight.
When all this started my eldest said he'd like to go over & help out at the time, when there were heavy hints that they may need it. I said I'd take his passport away & did hide it. He's not up for a fight but was disgusted by what was happening to Ukraine, it's a country he loves. About 3 years before he had a Russian friend at college who had come to the UK after his 'service', After the invasion of Ukraine my eldest was shocked by the things his 'friend' was posting, I don't think he deleted him from his social media as he wanted to have an insight as to what was happening. But basically even though my eldest was/is old enough to make his own decisions the parent in me stepped in and said no & that he wasn't going there for any reason (he'd be shit at actual fighting).
If push came to shove & there was ever conscription that meant my kids had to step up & fight. I'd 'kidnap' them, I'd hide them & keep them there, whether they wanted to fight or not. My job as a parent is to keep my kids safe. They may have more experience with Call Of Duty than me, but I'd prefer to go myself rather than them. We'd all be just as useless as each other in combat, it would be mad to send them off to fight.
The fact I'm even thinking about this is madness, how in 2025, can I be worried about conscription.
Thank God you’re not an American, you would be truly vilified…I'm on page 1064, #21,280. This thread has moved so fast the I can't keep up.
I'm not going to be childish and call him cun*ing fergus but he does have a point about who are prepared to go into fight.
When all this started my eldest said he'd like to go over & help out at the time, when there were heavy hints that they may need it. I said I'd take his passport away & did hide it. He's not up for a fight but was disgusted by what was happening to Ukraine, it's a country he loves. About 3 years before he had a Russian friend at college who had come to the UK after his 'service', After the invasion of Ukraine my eldest was shocked by the things his 'friend' was posting, I don't think he deleted him from his social media as he wanted to have an insight as to what was happening. But basically even though my eldest was/is old enough to make his own decisions the parent in me stepped in and said no & that he wasn't going there for any reason (he'd be shit at actual fighting).
If push came to shove & there was ever conscription that meant my kids had to step up & fight. I'd 'kidnap' them, I'd hide them & keep them there, whether they wanted to fight or not. My job as a parent is to keep my kids safe. They may have more experience with Call Of Duty than me, but I'd prefer to go myself rather than them. We'd all be just as useless as each other in combat, it would be mad to send them off to fight.
The fact I'm even thinking about this is madness, how in 2025, can I be worried about conscription.
Cotton Socks
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- Feb 20, 2017
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Oh well, I think I could live with that.
It's ingrained into Americans that it's perfectly acceptable to go to Asda & buy a gun.
I'm quite happy that over here we moan about strawberries not in stock rather than ammo for a high powered assault rifle.
Can you buy guns in Asda? Strawberries on the other hand, you may have a point…
The US is resorting to very dirty tactics to secure the minerals deal, amounting to extortion. They have now threatened to cut Ukraine's access to Starlink if they do not sign the deal.
This threat goes way beyond the issue of the US merely wanting to be compensated for any aid they provide and would be an act of pure malice tantamount to open aggression.
This threat goes way beyond the issue of the US merely wanting to be compensated for any aid they provide and would be an act of pure malice tantamount to open aggression.
Trump fears that if Zelenskiy doesn't sign something, anything...he just may not get that Nobel peace prize
- Aug 24, 2020
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It makes you wonder what is coming next.
Extortion is the right word. Trump seems to be losing his mind and perspective.
Nobby
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- Sep 29, 2007
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You’re not an American?
And if you are, what the frck are you doing on here.
Shouldn’t you be on some Russian forum somewhere?
Ah. Ok. I’m getting it.
Las Vegan is a Russian bot.
Sussed it
- Aug 24, 2020
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The reason for Trump's odd behaviour - the appeasement of Russia and the vilification of Ukraine, may be staring us in the face.
If we bypass the money/greed and agent Krasnov stuff, we are looking at an old man, who is in decline and losing his cognitive powers, which were not great to begin with.
As we age, we lose our mental faculties. In some people, this is manifested in aggression, as we know we are in decline and struggle to maintain a grip on events.
I'll post a link on the discussion going on in the US.
If we bypass the money/greed and agent Krasnov stuff, we are looking at an old man, who is in decline and losing his cognitive powers, which were not great to begin with.
As we age, we lose our mental faculties. In some people, this is manifested in aggression, as we know we are in decline and struggle to maintain a grip on events.
I'll post a link on the discussion going on in the US.
GoldstoneVintage
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Trump and his cabal keep reiterating that Ukraine can't win. However, they seem to be doing everything to prevent Ukraine from winning. Losing Starlink would probably be worse than losing US weapons aid, I think. This is the sort of thing I had in mind a few weeks ago when I said I feared Trump would try to dig Putin out of a hole.
fly high
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It shows it's not just Trump who wants the minerals, we can be sure that Musk is the one driving this.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Give ‘Father and Son’ by Cat Stevens a listen, wasn’t it exactly that he was taking about?I'm on page 1064, #21,280. This thread has moved so fast the I can't keep up.
I'm not going to be childish and call him cun*ing fergus but he does have a point about who are prepared to go into fight.
When all this started my eldest said he'd like to go over & help out at the time, when there were heavy hints that they may need it. I said I'd take his passport away & did hide it. He's not up for a fight but was disgusted by what was happening to Ukraine, it's a country he loves. About 3 years before he had a Russian friend at college who had come to the UK after his 'service', After the invasion of Ukraine my eldest was shocked by the things his 'friend' was posting, I don't think he deleted him from his social media as he wanted to have an insight as to what was happening. But basically even though my eldest was/is old enough to make his own decisions the parent in me stepped in and said no & that he wasn't going there for any reason (he'd be shit at actual fighting).
If push came to shove & there was ever conscription that meant my kids had to step up & fight. I'd 'kidnap' them, I'd hide them & keep them there, whether they wanted to fight or not. My job as a parent is to keep my kids safe. They may have more experience with Call Of Duty than me, but I'd prefer to go myself rather than them. We'd all be just as useless as each other in combat, it would be mad to send them off to fight.
The fact I'm even thinking about this is madness, how in 2025, can I be worried about conscription.
Hastings gull
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- Nov 23, 2013
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But would you have written all this , had you been alive in 1939?I'm on page 1064, #21,280. This thread has moved so fast the I can't keep up.
I'm not going to be childish and call him cun*ing fergus but he does have a point about who are prepared to go into fight.
When all this started my eldest said he'd like to go over & help out at the time, when there were heavy hints that they may need it. I said I'd take his passport away & did hide it. He's not up for a fight but was disgusted by what was happening to Ukraine, it's a country he loves. About 3 years before he had a Russian friend at college who had come to the UK after his 'service', After the invasion of Ukraine my eldest was shocked by the things his 'friend' was posting, I don't think he deleted him from his social media as he wanted to have an insight as to what was happening. But basically even though my eldest was/is old enough to make his own decisions the parent in me stepped in and said no & that he wasn't going there for any reason (he'd be shit at actual fighting).
If push came to shove & there was ever conscription that meant my kids had to step up & fight. I'd 'kidnap' them, I'd hide them & keep them there, whether they wanted to fight or not. My job as a parent is to keep my kids safe. They may have more experience with Call Of Duty than me, but I'd prefer to go myself rather than them. We'd all be just as useless as each other in combat, it would be mad to send them off to fight.
The fact I'm even thinking about this is madness, how in 2025, can I be worried about conscription.
Nah... I think he knows exactly what he's doing, bully in extremis, I just don't know why unless he's on a promise from Russia. I'll read the link though
- Jan 18, 2009
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With reserves, the Russian Army is 3m.
Source: Reuters
It’s been engaged in a 3 year conflict with an opponent actively supported by the West, in both military hardware and money.
The Russian Army during that period has remained unified and probably more important taken hold of the parts of eastern Ukraine Putin set out to grab.
None of those statements is Russian propaganda, they are irrefutable truths.
- Jan 18, 2009
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It’s not 1939, the people that lived here then are dead, we are evidently not the country today we were then.
In 1939 the adult population was overwhelmingly children from parents that lived and likely served in WW1. That conflict was a horror show casualty wise and it is remarkable the the children of the WW1 generation was willing to go through the experience of their parents.
Todays likely war serving generation are the great great grandchildren of the WW2 generation and let’s be honest they aren’t cut from the same cloth.
Life is different today, these children travel, have luxuries and lives unthinkable a mere 70 years ago. If Putin is a maniacal as Hitler was in 1939 we will need to find another way to stop him that think we can put 3m strong army together with the current 18-27yr old cohort……….imo obvs.
- Jan 18, 2009
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I get it you don’t like Vance, I don’t know about him, however I read his “controversial” speech last week in Munich.
It’s far as I’m concerned he made a series of points that were true, and that was refreshing to hear from a senior politician. I have no doubts the majority of people on this message board will rage and gnash their teeth about that, but regardless of the merits or otherwise of his view, the fact is Vance’s view is going to be the paradigm through which the US treats Europe.
This week Trump has exposed how weak the European powers are without US military support. So, what are the senior European politicians going to do, the ball is in their court, Vance and Trump are watching.