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[Misc] Will You Just Never Learn?



Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
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This started out as the question: 'Do you own too many albums by a particular artist?' Okay, so the obvious answer might be 'Yes, I've got Queen's Greatest Hits', but what I meant was: Do you have a musical artist, who you like and who you keep buying the back catalogue of, despite being consistently disappointed by your previous purchases of their stuff?

For me, step forward: 'The Beach Boys'. Yes 'Pet Sounds' is a contender for the Greatest Album ever made. Yes everyone's life would be made better by a compilation of their Greatest Hits. Yes, Brian Wilson's erratic genius means that there is something valuable in 'Smiley Smile', 'Surf's Up', 'Wild Honey' etc. but why do I keep buying copies of their early albums? They were churning out two a year, they all have a couple of singles on that I already have and the rest of the album is filler. Not counting compilations and live albums, I now own eleven of their 29 studio albums. I know it's too many. I also know that if I spot another of the handily packaged 2 albums on one CD sets that I don't own, I'll probably find myself buying it.

I've just driven home listening to their fourth album: 'Little Deuce Coupe'. It has 14 songs. 11 are about cars. One is about a plane, one is about someone dying in a car and the other is Mike Love's appallingly naff 'Be True to Your School'. The title track and 'I Get Around' are the only two songs of note and I already have them on compilations. It's not on vinyl, so won't be collectible. I have Spotify and didn't even need to buy it. Still did and don't even really regret it.

I started this thread asking about music, because that's my weakness, but I realised whilst rambling, that the question is wider. It's about the inability to say no to adding to any type of collection, even when you're completely aware of the diminishing returns. I have a problem. Completism? Obsession? Charlie Brown and the football levels of not learning from my mistakes? I don't know. I'm just looking for some assurance that others are sometimes just as weird.
 
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tedebear

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Jul 7, 2003
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To be fair, there are worse problems to have...with a seriously good front catalogue (not sure if that is even a thing!) I don't blame you for trawling the depths of the back catalogue looking for gems...

I'm a bad gardener and I wonder if its similar to my attempts to grow certain things here in the UK that never seem to work. Things from my childhood or my grandfathers garden (which was on the other side of the globe). I try and I fail and I try and I fail...and on we go...I tell myself I wont try something again...but I can't help myself...probably madness...
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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That comment would give some of us here a sheer heart attack...
While musing on singers I dislike, several popped into my head.

I shall share the list:

Gene Pitney
Neil Diamond
Harry Nilson
Tiny Tim
Bryan Adams
Les Twat of Mud
Freddie Mercury

and for the ladies:

Lene Lovic
Tina (I love to love) Charles
Sonja Kristina (her 'performance' at the Dome in the 70s was laughable)
Cilla
Sonja Kraushofer of L'Âme Immortelle
Froxeanne of The Frozen Autumn
 




MikeHimself

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Nov 17, 2024
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Not to mention their Albion inspired lyric in Brighton Rock

Oh Rock of Ages, do not crumble, love is breathing still
Oh Lady Moon shine down, a little people magic if you will..

Kind of sums up the effect of Kaoru's magnificent goal on the mood in the Fab In camp
 


Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
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To be fair, there are worse problems to have...with a seriously good front catalogue (not sure if that is even a thing!) I don't blame you for trawling the depths of the back catalogue looking for gems...

I'm a bad gardener and I wonder if its similar to my attempts to grow certain things here in the UK that never seem to work. Things from my childhood or my grandfathers garden (which was on the other side of the globe). I try and I fail and I try and I fail...and on we go...I tell myself I wont try something again...but I can't help myself...probably madness...
Yes, that's exactly the type of thing: Once bitten, twice bitten - I think I must enjoy being bitten. I don't think it's madness, although of course, it's often offered as a definition of it. I'd like to think it's a logic fail that makes us human. There's a certain sense of relentless hope in the face of reality.
 


Anger

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Jul 21, 2017
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No. But then I’ve never bought a Beach Boys album.

I feel your pain, I feel your shame, but you’re not to blame.
 




Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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While musing on singers I dislike, several popped into my head.

I shall share the list:

Gene Pitney
Neil Diamond
Harry Nilson
Tiny Tim
Bryan Adams
Les Twat of Mud
Freddie Mercury

and for the ladies:

Lene Lovic
Tina (I love to love) Charles
Sonja Kristina (her 'performance' at the Dome in the 70s was laughable)
Cilla
Sonja Kraushofer of L'Âme Immortelle
Froxeanne of The Frozen Autumn
😥

You and I used to be firends
 


Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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My ex didin't just collect albums, there were deluxe versions, dulux versions and deluded versions of the same thing. A different album cover would force another buy. I'm a passive bloke, but it was the source of much friction as they took over our small flat.
 


studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
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Nope, although unlike HWT I would only draw the line at Queen+ rather than Queen

In fact there are quiet a few albums where I have various versions of the same album vinyl, cd, deluxe, remastered....
 




MTSeagulls

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Sep 18, 2019
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I did it with ELO, my first being ELO's Greatest Hits circa 1979 followed quickly by a bootleg copy of Out of The Blue bought at Wembley Sunday Market.
I then bought everything going forward up to date, including Xanadu and Jeff Lynne's solo albums but not ELO Part II, and everything going back as and when I found them in record shops or car boot sales.
Have to say the first two albums were interesting to say the least but by the On The Third Day the ELO sound started to become familiar for me.
Lost the lot when I got divorced other than the last two Jeff Lynne's ELO albums which I bought since.
 




chickens

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Oct 12, 2022
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In my youth, absolutely, I had to track down every track that bands I liked had ever released. The internet has taken a lot of the challenge out of it though. In the past I had to send off to import places for variations on singles I already owned just because there was an unheard track as a b-side on the Japanese release.

The commodification of music via Spotify/Apple Music etc. has been good in terms of availability of rarer tracks, but something has been lost along the way.

Grampa Simpson Grandpa GIF by MOODMAN
 




Goldstone1976

We got Calde back, then lost him again. Calde in!!
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This started out as the question: 'Do you own too many albums by a particular artist?' Okay, so the obvious answer might be 'Yes, I've got Queen's Greatest Hits', but what I meant was: Do you have a musical artist, who you like and who you keep buying the back catalogue of, despite being consistently disappointed by your previous purchases of their stuff?

For me, step forward: 'The Beach Boys'. Yes 'Pet Sounds' is a contender for the Greatest Album ever made. Yes everyone's life would be made better by a compilation of their Greatest Hits. Yes, Brian Wilson's erratic genius means that there is something valuable in 'Smiley Smile', 'Surf's Up', 'Wild Honey' etc. but why do I keep buying copies of their early albums? They were churning out two a year, they all have a couple of singles on that I already have and the rest of the album is filler. Not counting compilations and live albums, I now own eleven of their 29 studio albums. I know it's too many. I also know that if I spot another of the handily packaged 2 albums on one CD sets that I don't own, I'll probably find myself buying it.

I've just driven home listening to their fourth album: 'Little Deuce Coupe'. It has 14 songs. 11 are about cars. One is about a plane, one is about someone dying in a car and the other is Mike Love's appallingly naff 'Be True to Your School'. The title track and 'I Get Around' are the only two songs of note and I already have them on compilations. It's not on vinyl, so won't be collectible. I have Spotify and didn't even need to buy it. Still did and don't even really regret it.

I started this thread asking about music, because that's my weakness, but I realised whilst rambling, that the question is wider. It's about the inability to say no to adding to any type of collection, even when you're completely aware of the diminishing returns. I have a problem. Completism? Obsession? Charlie Brown and the football levels of not learning from my mistakes? I don't know. I'm just looking for some assurance that others are sometimes just as weird.
Picking up on your wider theme…

YES! Kitchen gadgets: 4 air fryers (all promising something that sounds novel or useful), 4 pizza ovens (ditto), 2 vacuum sealers (ditto), 11 (I’ve just counted them) potato peelers (the first one I bought, the cheapest, is of course the best at actually peeling potatoes)… and on and on and on.

‘It’s a hobby’, I say.
‘It’s f***ing weird’, says my partner.
She’s right, of course.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Nope :shrug:

Loved the dig at Queen though.
I hate Queen.
I hate Queen too, can we have a thread about it.

I also hate the fact that it is now socially unacceptable to hate Queen and often people try to persuade me that i don't hate Queen.

But I do.

I hate em
 


Happy Exile

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In my youth, absolutely, I had to track down every track that bands I liked had ever released. The internet has taken a lot of the challenge out of it though. In the past I had to send off to import places for variations on singles I already owned just because there was an unheard track as a b-side on the Japanese release.

The commodification of music via Spotify/Apple Music etc. has been good in terms of availability of rarer tracks, but something has been lost along the way.

Grampa Simpson Grandpa GIF by MOODMAN
Totally agree. My mate James and I went wrote to some guy in the US whose address was in a fanzine advertising bootlegs, though calling them "unreleased studio albums" or something. We sent a couple of dollars for stamps so he'd write back and send us his catalogue. It took about 6 months end to end but we ended up proud owners of a C60 Guns n' Roses demo tape. This was about 1991 or so I think. It was horrendous and sounded like it was recorded outside a studio door, and was a live rehearsal so unmixed, and then recorded off a stereo playing that recording, then off a stereo playing that recording like an infinite hall of mirrors of sonic degradation. Indisputably GnR though, and indisputably half a dozen unreleased songs. Our level of happiness and pride was absolutely off the scale even though I doubt we listened to it more than 3 or 4 times because it was so bad! In a way it's sad that kids can't have that satisfaction of the hunt anymore.
 
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WildWood

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Sep 6, 2011
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Chichester
I have an obscene addiction to buying records. So much so that I opened a record shop in April! Mainly to give me more space to put them all..!

There's loads of albums of bands or artists that I keep whenever they turn up, but then don't quite hit the spot! The one that springs to mind straight away is Roxy Music! I've got every studio album, but they're just not as good as I think they're going to be when I put them on! I'm sure my obsession started with staring at the front cover of 'Country Life' for too long. (The one on the left if you're asking.......)
 




PascalGroß Tips

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Jan 29, 2024
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While musing on singers I dislike, several popped into my head.

I shall share the list:

Gene Pitney
Neil Diamond
Harry Nilson
Tiny Tim
Bryan Adams
Les Twat of Mud
Freddie Mercury

and for the ladies:

Lene Lovic
Tina (I love to love) Charles
Sonja Kristina (her 'performance' at the Dome in the 70s was laughable)
Cilla
Sonja Kraushofer of L'Âme Immortelle
Froxeanne of The Frozen Autumn
Confession time … I still have ‘I love to Love (But My Lady Loves to Dance)’ in my record collection along with 2 other Tina Charles singles. I did like a bit of disco in the mid 70s … thank goodness The Jam and The Clash etc came along.
 




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