Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Unless you were in the room with Bloom/Barber/RDZ it’s no more than speculation what happened or who asked for what.
Enciso & Ferguson hardly played from the outset so it would seem he didn’t want them around.
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[Albion] Billy Gilmour.
- Thread starter Leekbrookgull
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Enciso & Ferguson hardly played from the outset so it would seem he didn’t want them around.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Please stop
Silverhatch
Well-known member
No one (on here) was anywhere f***ing near any f***ing room. It’s ALL f***ing heresay and unsubstantiated speculation. That’s ok, because that’s what fan forums are about. It’s just the f***ing wanking certainty of every f***ing post that grinds my gears
. Nevertheless, the only fact is that WE ALL KNOW that our club is data-driven and FH is just one part of the machine; he’s opinion of a player is an important voice - it’s not the only one.
Marlton and Hove Albion
Active member
I wonder how the "machine" factors RDZ hosting players to pasta dinners and his expectations for the team and himself. We'll never ever know, and the wheels came off in the back half of last year, but I'm sure I'm not alone in wishing he was still here. Are we better off as a result of his departure?
- Sep 3, 2010
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I get why we let WBG go to a degree. He's not elite tier and premier league games are often won and lost in midfield. Especially when we don't play any Midfield.
The problem is that whilst Gilmour made 60/60 successful passes against Marseille he has been replaced by a bloke who has 0/1 passes when there are 4 attackers v 1 defender and another who is so lightweight we drop him when the wind gets above 20mph in case he blows away.
Gross, Caceido & Ali Mac are miles ahead of our current crop, Baleba excepted. WBG was good but not great. We miss him because a lot of what has replaced him is much worse.
The problem is that whilst Gilmour made 60/60 successful passes against Marseille he has been replaced by a bloke who has 0/1 passes when there are 4 attackers v 1 defender and another who is so lightweight we drop him when the wind gets above 20mph in case he blows away.
Gross, Caceido & Ali Mac are miles ahead of our current crop, Baleba excepted. WBG was good but not great. We miss him because a lot of what has replaced him is much worse.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
The wheels came off because a club generally backs a manager in January if the squad is short on numbers.
He had a bag of broken tools to work with all the quality was injured.
I like to focus on things I can change...
And failing that, things other people I respect (Bloom/Barbs) can change...
And failing that, my inner Violet Elizabeth Bott...
pigmanovich
Good Old Sausage by the Sea
Nah, he didn't bother adapting his tactics to the players he had to choose from - and to having been found out by the rest of the league - until May, by which point it was too late to salvage our season. Flexibility and pragmatism make a good manager, not dogmatism. Unless of course you only have world-class players in the squad, which we never have.
jackalbion
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- Aug 30, 2011
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Just passing on what I was told by someone, seems others were also told by others. You can believe or not and move on. I imagine if he saw him as a bigger part of his plans he wouldn’t have been sold, but ultimately he was non fussed so it was the decision to move him on. It’s not that complicated.No one (on here) was anywhere f***ing near any f***ing room. It’s ALL f***ing heresay and unsubstantiated speculation. That’s ok, because that’s what fan forums are about. It’s just the f***ing wanking certainty of every f***ing post that grinds my gears
You could say exactly same about the awful Everton/Forest performances and dearth of home wins this season. Both RDZ and FH hit by devastating injury lists in key positions. “Haven’t adapted, found out, no pragmatism” …. in reacting to the injury list and clear squad deficiencies.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
You know that’s a myth we often changed formations during matches. He was hardly likely to start low blocking like a Dyche side because he believed in his tactics.
We were hammering sides before the injury pile up no one was found out.
The Fits
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- Jun 29, 2020
- 10,571
Totally agree. Fab clearly isn’t making those kind of calls.
The idea that we’d just sack players off at his whim doesn’t add up. However, players might want to leave because of him.
This was discussed in detail last season. Some newbie RDZ haters said he should adopt a low block and steal wins with the counter. Until it was pointed out by many that we didn’t at that time have uninjured pace merchants to play that game.
pigmanovich
Good Old Sausage by the Sea
Multiple Brighton managers have struggled to deal with low-block sides. I have no excuse for how we set up against Forest. But Newcastle away was Fabian at his most pragmatic and he has learned from other setbacks such as the Chelsea defeat.
Billy Gilmour.
pigmanovich
Good Old Sausage by the Sea
It's not a binary choice, you can be flexible without resorting to a low block. RDZ demonstrated a bit of pragmatism away at Newcastle and it paid off but he waited too long to do it.
I attended quite a few games in the latter half of last season - I wish I hadn't! - and there's little to distinguish how we played in most of them.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Someone said to me if Potter was second in the French league the Potter fans would be like pigs in shit
Silverhatch
Well-known member
No problem. The various bits of info I’ve ever garnered from the Albion came from a current board director and two very senior StarLizard employees. ALL of them were GRANITE about releasing even the smallest detail about the workings of the club. It’s cultural and driven by Tony.
Then unlearnt versus Forest. Like RDZ hamstrung with injuries, but opting for one in CM against three. Effectively a 4-1-0-5 or 4-1-5, away from home, against a team used to bullying the opposition from KO. Said by folk here weeks before the fixture …. don’t hand Forest an early lead or it’s game over.
pigmanovich
Good Old Sausage by the Sea
Our other CMs weren't fit to start, and probably made us worse when they came on, despite Gomez's flashes of quality. Didn't really have a choice.
But fair enough, let's take consistent dogmatism over occasional flexibility lest the latter fail to secure us all three points every week.