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[Albion] Rumours of Unrest - received wisdom, or a reality?







jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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I agree that they weren't doing much, but in all of the Forest attacks, there were lots of Brighton players in the defensive part of the field. The problem wasn't that they were not there, but that they played crap.
I get your point, but they spent most of their time in the attacking third is what I saw.
 




Ike and Tina Burner

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There’s a concern about the lack of experience and odd decisions & substitutions (Webster vs Everton). If he loses the club captain then that’s no good..
My source, the player's spouse I spoke to on saturday, specifically mentioned that substitution as causing confusion to her partner. It's obviously worried the dressing room that's he's out of his depth.
 


Mike Small

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I’ve been thinking very carefully about how to respond to Saturday and this is my take… if Fabian has lost the dressing room, he’s finished… it’s a question of time. No coach/manager can survive a player revolt, nothing new - he’s done for.

If however, this is all bollocks then he could turn it round… but, and here’s the thing… I’m not sure I want the latter…

I’ve tried, you know… to warm to him… he’s a bit of a strange one… I felt really uncomfortable watching the pre-season ‘PowerPoint’ cliche ridden god awful almost self parody of a junior manager gone rogue… it was cringe town, and if I’d been a player I’d have been glad to get loaned out… delighted to have spent the year playing for Port Vale, where trust and process and team matey happy clappy, let’s hold hands and sing Kumbaya would have been an unlikely eventuality… the players looked incredulous then, after months of this SHIT they look lost, bereft of wanting to make this 🤮 inducing BS a success…

So in summary, I think we’ve made a colossal mistake BUT thankfully one we might just be able to back out of after a 14th ish finish…

In the meantime, won’t someone at the club take Fabian to one side and gently tell him…

“JUST STOP SAYING GUYS AND PROCESS… PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF f*** STOP.”
Tony Bloom is obviously incredible but (and this is probably hindsight talking as well) it concerned me how at the time (I think it was David Weir) was saying in some interview how when they interviewed Hurzelar, they were immediately impressed and were looking at each other as if to say 'this guy is good' by his answers. Those three being impressed by his 'intensity guys and fwriendly authority' is somewhat different to what would impress Lewis Dunk, Joao Pedro and Julio Enciso. I don't see the players with him at all anymore. I like Fabian's ambition and TB has taken a punt but would be very surprised if he has the respect in the dressing room for this to be turned around l/t. Happy to be wrong but he shrinks ever more every game. Good/stable teams and man managers don't throw away points like we do let alone the 7-0.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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My source, the player's spouse I spoke to on saturday, specifically mentioned that substitution as causing confusion to her partner. It's obviously worried the dressing room that's he's out of his depth.
Was that the team's take, the wife's take, or your take?

Three degrees of separation takes me to Putin. I shit you not.
 


jackalbion

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Time will tell but this has a whiff of history repeating for me, and for the reasons in the post you replied to.

Poyet, a fiery Latin type who revolutionised football in the lower leagues with us, eventually let his own ambitions come above those of the club and questioned the "ceiling". But from the 'we're f***ing brilliant" season to taking a League One squad to 10th in the Championship in season one to occasional thrashings of other teams (Blackpool for example) it was an incredible ride. He was one of the most charismatic coaches in the league and he was grounded by having Brighton legend Oatway with him. He made recruitment mistakes (CMS), gambled on big names (Bridge, Vicente) and generally put us on the map. Then he tried to f*** Tony over and found out.

For the above swap in Dahoud for CMS, Fati for Vicente, Crofts for Oatway, our Euro qualification for the f***ing brilliant season and our Europa League group qualification for the first Championship season (I don't care how weak you think the opposition were, you still have to beat them on Thursday, travel home and play PL football on Sunday). And it all unravelled with a strop when RDZ tried to f*** around with our recruitment and found out.

We replaced Poyet with the introverted Oscar and then him with a gamble from Germany with baffling tactics who could be trusted to say nothing about a couple of recruitment windows that left us considerably weaker.

From where I'm standing that's so similar as to be almost circular. But we probably won't be getting in Dyche or Moyes next, to be fair.
Who will be our Hyypia, I’m excited to see, I reckon Michael Carrick.
 


Jim in the West

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My source, the player's spouse I spoke to on saturday, specifically mentioned that substitution as causing confusion to her partner. It's obviously worried the dressing room that's he's out of his depth.
To be fair to Fab, it seemed like a "last throw of the dice" type decision - no-one on the pitch before that had seemed like scoring - we didn't have a shot on target. If nothing "normal" is working, then sometimes it's worth taking a punt.
 






Clive Walker

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Jul 5, 2011
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‘Leaks’ no doubt come when the players aren’t that bothered that their thoughts are becoming public. It’s not a good look for the club though.
You just had to look at Dunky’s face during that post match interview and his carefully worded ‘thoughts’ about the performance and his dismissive body language towards Fabian to get an insight into what he thinks.
It wasn’t Dunky’s best game and I don’t think FH’s helter skelter style suits him at his age.
It does look like things are unravelling pretty quickly.
At last I now know our style is helter skelter! I’ve been trying to work this out since FH joined.

Not as long as the damn documentary thankfully.
 


dazzer6666

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That post comes across and very arrogant, but like many others was there sat and could see it was 1 in the middle also it was highlighted on motd
Yep. We were saying poor Hinch - not fully fit - had been thrown under the bus, expected to do Baleba’s job with Rutter not providing adequate defensive support…….
 






Deadly Danson

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My source, the player's spouse I spoke to on saturday, specifically mentioned that substitution as causing confusion to her partner. It's obviously worried the dressing room that's he's out of his depth.
Well her partner is a bit thick then. Big man up front as a last resort - it's not rocket science regardless of whether it worked.
 


















Ike and Tina Burner

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Mar 22, 2019
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Well her partner is a bit thick then. Big man up front as a last resort - it's not rocket science regardless of whether it worked.
Webster came on, wandered around aimlessly and touched the ball about twice. It may be an old school tactic but in this instance it was completely pointless and was basically admitting defeat. Everyone knew nothing positive would come of it, even Fab I suspect. That’s what's worrying.
 


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