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[Albion] Fab OUT







chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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Last weekend was poor, in virtually every respect. Yesterday was the worst display in a lifetime.

Chelsea next Sat will make or break it for me, Not that we must win, but we must perform, or at least turn up!
Yesterday was the worst result in a lifetime. It wasn't the worst performance. Of course yesterday was terrible but the 5-0 home to Bournemouth, 4-0 to Luton, 6-1 to Villa, and some of the performances against the top 6 under Hughton were arguably worse. We've had these results relatively recently and bounced back.
 


Munchkin

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Jul 12, 2005
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Littlehampton
Last weekend was poor, in virtually every respect. Yesterday was the worst display in a lifetime.

Chelsea next Sat will make or break it for me, Not that we must win, but we must perform, or at least turn up!
Make or break IMO.

We lose and the season could be over in the first week in Feb.

TB and PB would then surely have to act, I imagine hostilities towards FH would intensify massively.
 


Flounce

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Make or break IMO.

We lose and the season could be over in the first week in Feb.

TB and PB would then surely have to act, I imagine hostilities towards FH would intensify massively.
We are not going down so regardless of results “acting” before a manager on the radar is available or poachable is not going to happen, however shit the results are imo. My biggest concern about Fab is that he appears, to me, to be both arrogant and naive, that doesn’t bode well for being able to cope with a crisis. We’ll see, hope I’m wrong.
 


el punal

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Aug 29, 2012
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The dull part of the south coast
Yesterday was the worst result in a lifetime. It wasn't the worst performance. Of course yesterday was terrible but the 5-0 home to Bournemouth, 4-0 to Luton, 6-1 to Villa, and some of the performances against the top 6 under Hughton were arguably worse. We've had these results relatively recently and bounced back.
I hope you’re right. In the back of my mind I have this default position that this is an inexperienced Premier League manager, coaching, in the main, a young inexperienced but promising set of players. Wasn’t it said many times at the start of the season that we’ll play attacking unorthodox football and win spectacularly, and lose the same way? We are reaping what we’ve sown. In that regard we have to accept it. What won’t be acceptable if performances like yesterday‘s are repeated on a regular basis between now and the end of the season. Let’s be positive and hope that that won’t be the case.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Make or break IMO.

We lose and the season could be over in the first week in Feb.

TB and PB would then surely have to act, I imagine hostilities towards FH would intensify massively.
Two bad results v Chelsea at the Amex in the space of a week would turn the place pretty toxic towards FH. And an up-furk at Southampton would seal the deal for the guy shirley lest STH renewal rates be jeopardised :wave:
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Yesterday was the worst result in a lifetime. It wasn't the worst performance. Of course yesterday was terrible but the 5-0 home to Bournemouth, 4-0 to Luton, 6-1 to Villa, and some of the performances against the top 6 under Hughton were arguably worse. We've had these results relatively recently and bounced back.
That was one horrendous team selection/formation destined to get destroyed by Forest.
And the fact the berk didn’t make a change after ten minutes says it all really.
Last season we had a stretched squad playing Europa league football for the first time and bringing CH’s championship squad into the equation is just daft.
 


chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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That was one horrendous team selection/formation destined to get destroyed by Forest.
And the fact the berk didn’t make a change after ten minutes says it all really.
Last season we had a stretched squad playing Europa league football for the first time and bringing CH’s championship squad into the equation is just daft.
Who said it was a good performance ? Of course it wasn’t. It was terrible. Was it the worst performance in a lifetime ? (As argued) Not in the PL , not arguably in last few years. But still terrible.
 






Munchkin

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Jul 12, 2005
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Also wonder if Andrew Crofts is simply a ‘yes man’

How an earth can he not have some input in the apparent madness that surrounds FH, his tactics and in play management?
 






Hiheidi

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Dec 27, 2022
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If we sack him now, and bring someone else in, the transfer window will have closed (not that we'd likely buy anyone in January to keep a new manager happy), but we have sent Enciso and Ferguson out on loan, and moved Barco onto another loan - maybe a new manager would have other ideas about these players.
 




Insel affe

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Feb 23, 2009
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Brighton factually.....
Also wonder if Andrew Crofts is simply a ‘yes man’

How an earth can he not have some input in the apparent madness that surrounds FH, his tactics and in play management?
Would you seriously want to admit to being part of that particular process.
I am getting distinct vibes, of arrogance from FH I doubt he accepts any input from anyone else.
 




zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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Yesterday was the worst result in a lifetime. It wasn't the worst performance. Of course yesterday was terrible but the 5-0 home to Bournemouth, 4-0 to Luton, 6-1 to Villa, and some of the performances against the top 6 under Hughton were arguably worse. We've had these results relatively recently and bounced back.
As substandard performances go it was just as bad. . . . it was spineless.

we were f***ing shit in the. Mid 90's but at least we tried, and survived. Most of yesterdays performances would have got you shot at dawn Back then.
 


Mancgull

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As substandard performances go it was just as bad. . . . it was spineless.

we were f***ing shit in the. Mid 90's but at least we tried, and survived. Most of yesterdays performances would have got you shot at dawn Back then.
It was really bad and there were some individual mistakes but I lay the blame on the manager for an absurd line up and lack of tactics.
We were put under intense pressure by a good Forest team and we just unravelled as a team which I don’t think was down to a lack of effort, but rather a lack of game plan from the manager and the lack of knowing our style of play which both RDZ and Potter had.
The players didn’t know what to do to stop what was happening. FH just sat on his arse as he didn’t know either.
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Yep, I’d sack him now. He’s not competent at this level. We can’t make Europe, we can’t go down. So put Crofts in charge, and go again in the summer. I’d take McKenna when Ipswich go down, he was our first choice last time, for example.
If we get that new manager bounce who knows things are still achievable with a decent run.
 


amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
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I have been on a down about manager since with 5 minutes to go could not instruct somebody to man mark Vardy the only danger player in last 5 minutes of Leicester game I wont go on about one up against Southampton and bringing Dunk on and going 3 at back which was repeated at Fulham. And playing Pervis at WB
 




zefarelly

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It was really bad and there were some individual mistakes but I lay the blame on the manager for an absurd line up and lack of tactics.
We were put under intense pressure by a good Forest team and we just unravelled as a team which I don’t think was down to a lack of effort, but rather a lack of game plan from the manager and the lack of knowing our style of play which both RDZ and Potter had.
The players didn’t know what to do to stop what was happening. FH just sat on his arse as he didn’t know either.
Pretty much everything thats gone to shit this season has been on him.

players mistakes will always happen, so will manager ones, but the manager is in the position to change things. If they don't/can't do that they're failing.
 


Mike Small

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Dec 26, 2008
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Based on this season's form and performances (where every win has also meant at least a half where we are struggling), we're finishing 14th below Palace, Brentford, Spurs and God help us if Potter gets more of a tune out of West Ham.

The players are pampered primadonna's. Geeing up the crowd. f*** off. Pedro is the worse offender this season. they beleive their own hype but don't tun up when times are tough (last week at everton being a prime example). However, they're not having our petulant body warmer coach and neither am I. Looking at other PL teams I can only see Hurzelar possibly being a better manager than Ruud at Leciester and whoever the Southampton manager is but even he is more experienced. I wish we had a better manager.

I don't think their were a lot of candidates in the summer and TB took a punt on FH. Fair play. I'm more concerned by our recruitment and injuries more than his appointment and the general ethos of the club. We're soft. We've been shit in the past, so shit but not soft like this. Losses and crap draws seem more acceptable than ever. Those last two goals yesterday were disgraceful. You don't give up like they did yesterday if they 'believed in the process'. I don't think the style of play has been this clueless since Mickey Adams Take 2.
 


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