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[Albion] Rumours of Unrest - received wisdom, or a reality?
- Thread starter Bodian
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- Oct 12, 2022
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The only sauce we have so far is Munchkin, who reports what was clearly a minor disagreement, since the players involved are all still training with the club and involved in matches. Given FH’s insistence on group discipline, it clearly wasn’t anything more. (albeit one is quite rightly going out on loan)
So it appears that that’s the sum total of evidence, which amounts to a fart in the wind. People disagree all the time, it doesn’t mean they’ve lost respect or can’t/won’t work with each other.
So far, there’s nothing else out there, and with respect to Munchkin, if he’s not willing to reveal his source then even that’s anecdotal at best.
Looks to me like nothing to see here, just some weaponising of Munchkin’s (unverified) tale of a disagreement.
So it appears that that’s the sum total of evidence, which amounts to a fart in the wind. People disagree all the time, it doesn’t mean they’ve lost respect or can’t/won’t work with each other.
So far, there’s nothing else out there, and with respect to Munchkin, if he’s not willing to reveal his source then even that’s anecdotal at best.
Looks to me like nothing to see here, just some weaponising of Munchkin’s (unverified) tale of a disagreement.
When did he say that?
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Was reported by multiple people on here yesterday
- Thread starter
- #45
I think this is what I am asking about. Where is this actual quote? Where did he say it? Can you post the link?
Or is it just someone says he said - but they're the only person who heard it?
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- #46
But all individually - or just repeating what one person initially posted?
Same here.
@Bozza sent that precise quote to our mods WhatsApp
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Yup, and repeated it on the Fab OUT thread...
Q 'Would you have done anything different with hindsight?'
A 'No..there were reasons for picking the team I did, and some of those reasons are not for the public.'
Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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If there wasn't unrest before there should be after losing 7-0, everyone needs to be in a room and explain their behaviours in the game, get all the negativity out and that needs to include a session with recruitment or have those involved in the summer been sacked already.
I'll go back to the Minteh incident last week. People saying its all about discipline and rules , yes that plays a part but its also about managing circumstances as and when they appear, reading a set of rules and saying your 1 minute late, the rules say..... is not real management. Clearly no one on here knows what went on , or how late he was, but if we have a rule book manager then that needs to change.
I'll go back to the Minteh incident last week. People saying its all about discipline and rules , yes that plays a part but its also about managing circumstances as and when they appear, reading a set of rules and saying your 1 minute late, the rules say..... is not real management. Clearly no one on here knows what went on , or how late he was, but if we have a rule book manager then that needs to change.
Embargoed then, is it?
Edit: just seen THPP's post (which wasn't up when I started typing!) - will look on that thread.
No it’s also on the official match thread.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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See post #49 above
Munchkin
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Respect and understand your post. There a lot of things I’m told that I don’t share for exactly the reasons you state. However, with the whole Evan Ferguson situation and the way he is (and continues to be treated by FH) I thought it was only right to post what I did to add some context.
I know for a fact the dressing room has been a close nit group for a long long time now, very rarely would you hear any negatives and when things did happen it was very much a closed shop and very little got out.
That isn’t the case this season and there are a lot of things going on that people seem keen to ‘leak’ this isn’t just the players, it’s the staff also that have been here in the same roles under RDZ and Potter.
But take on board your point and I think it’s a valid comment, so I won’t be posting anything further on NSC with regards to what I’m told is happening behind the scenes
The Grockle
Formally Croydon Seagull
I suspect there is division and unrest in every dressing room where results aren't going your way. It's a relentless league where small margins determine results, I imagine it's an incredibly stressful environment with regular fall outs.
Not sure I like the tone of this thread or the general tone at the minute. Much of our fan base has become a bit entitled and I'm not sure we earnt the right to have that attitude.
Not sure I like the tone of this thread or the general tone at the minute. Much of our fan base has become a bit entitled and I'm not sure we earnt the right to have that attitude.
- Apr 5, 2014
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It would be if it was, but it isn't, so it wasn't.
um bongo molongo
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You don’t need to be in the know to see there’s a problem. There’s young players wanting out because they don’t feel they are progressing. Good players are looking like poor players. New players are not settling. No one looks happy. No one on the pitch seems to have a clear idea about what they are supposed to be doing. And there’s a notable lack of all the positive interviews from senior players that we used to get about Potter and RDZ.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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When did FH make that quote? Post match press conference? Is there a link to a more detailed version of the quote? Either written or video.
- Apr 5, 2014
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Thanks. I wasn't having a go, well I suppose I was. Nothing personal. It's just that a lot of what arrives on these forums is not helpful, especially as, even if a source may have something genuine, the motives and emphasis of what they say could be corrupted. It's the way of the world these days, well, since forever. Just look at the political threads. I'm sure that there are disagreements in any camp. And you don't need to even have a source to know that players will sometimes have a beef with management. But, even then, there are angles upon which the issue will be viewed.Respect and understand your post. There a lot of things I’m told that I don’t share for exactly the reasons you state. However, with the whole Evan Ferguson situation and the way he is (and continues to be treated by FH) I thought it was only right to post what I did to add some context.
I know for a fact the dressing room has been a close nit group for a long long time now, very rarely would you hear any negatives and when things did happen it was very much a closed shop and very little got out.
That isn’t the case this season and there are a lot of things going on that people seem keen to ‘leak’ this isn’t just the players, it’s the staff also that have been here in the same roles under RDZ and Potter.
But take on board your point and I think it’s a valid comment, so I won’t be posting anything further on NSC with regards to what I’m told is happening behind the scenes
- Apr 5, 2014
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Having looked at the original post I made, and the further reply, whilst I stand by the points I am raising I'd like to say sorry for the 'look at me' comment. There is no evidence that was your intention.Respect and understand your post. There a lot of things I’m told that I don’t share for exactly the reasons you state. However, with the whole Evan Ferguson situation and the way he is (and continues to be treated by FH) I thought it was only right to post what I did to add some context.
I know for a fact the dressing room has been a close nit group for a long long time now, very rarely would you hear any negatives and when things did happen it was very much a closed shop and very little got out.
That isn’t the case this season and there are a lot of things going on that people seem keen to ‘leak’ this isn’t just the players, it’s the staff also that have been here in the same roles under RDZ and Potter.
But take on board your point and I think it’s a valid comment, so I won’t be posting anything further on NSC with regards to what I’m told is happening behind the scenes