Greg Bobkin
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[Misc] Are you pro or anti AI?
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BBassic
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There's an argument to be made here that this is an ethical and good use of AI.
I.E creating salacious material that has little chance of being the product of coercion or crime. You hear stories of women forced to work in these camsite farms (for lack of a better term) for no money at all. Videos and photos produced by an AI "artist" does away with all that.
Then the flipside, because there's always a flipside, is the negative effect that could have on women who have chosen sex work. A human can only churn out so much material whereas some AI can flood the market.
Incidentally - what a time to be alive when we can be discussing the relative merits and pitfalls of AI generated nudity vs. flesh and blood on a dreary Monday morning.
An even more interesting argument, albeit a far more controversial and sensitive one would be if that also applies to child pornography.
Would it decrease the sexual abuse and exploitation of real children or merely encourage it?
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BBassic
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I would imagine that'd be outlawed. Rightly so.
It absolutely will. There will be new builds where they way that things like doors and pipeworks are designed by AI so that they can swiftly be installed by robotics. This will usher in an era of lower cost housing. That still leaves plenty of retrofit work, which I think is going to be more a constraint for robotics rather than AI.
The flip side of this is that I think we will see a new class of crafts people emerge, as people are prepared to pay a premium for quality and individuality. Some of these will be genuine traditional crafts people, some may just be AI curators, who share their own good taste, influence and supply chain knowledge. Some of this maybe makes no sense, but there will be plenty of people prepared to pay a premium to not have an AI design, even if that in itself is a facade.
Apologies for not answering the question. Pro AI, we just need to actively decide how and where we use and engage with it.
I have zero interest in having a personal AI assistant.
I have zero interest in having a personal AI assistant.
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A good article here on how AI is speeding the development of robotics.
ig.ft.com
(Apologies if behind a paywall) - for those who can’t be arsed to read or can’t navigate any paywall, there’s a comment on there from someone working in robotics suggesting that humanoid style robots that can work in a mixed environment with humans could be possible, whereas previously they’ve been considered a pipe dream.
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(Apologies if behind a paywall) - for those who can’t be arsed to read or can’t navigate any paywall, there’s a comment on there from someone working in robotics suggesting that humanoid style robots that can work in a mixed environment with humans could be possible, whereas previously they’ve been considered a pipe dream.
I'm anti-AI, although primarily due to the lack of understanding that the World has. The younger generation seem to be less challenging of information and more accepting of what they see on social media as true. AI, used in the right context, would be a positive thing, unfortunately it'll be used in nefarious ways.
Just wait until HR departments ask the AI who to sack to optimise the amount of money made / productivity on an employee by employee basis vs salary/redundancy costs. They could press the who to fire button on a monthly basis with each payday.
Total joy.
Total joy.
pb21
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Could do that in Excel?
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It’s coming up with comparable results to GPT-4 at a fraction of the training cost, and using older hardware.
It’s a bit of an embarrassment to the US, as they’ve just announced that they needed $100 billion for their “Stargate” project, and Elon Musk had already waded in and said that wasn’t nearly enough.
nVidia (which makes the chips used and had been looking forward to bumper sales) is suddenly having its value reevaluated. As nVidia is a big chunk of the Nasdaq and S&P indices, it’s caused a significant drop in tech valuations.
It’s effectively the Real Madrid approach vs the Brighton approach. One clever guy at the head of DeepSeek who’s effectively running it as a science project.
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It will usher an era of higher profits, they won’t sell houses for cheaper.
pocketseagull
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The problem here is that chatGPT for example frequently gives incorrect answers to questions.
beorhthelm
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bit odd the Deepseek story. there's rumours they might be fibbing, on account China is not supposed to have the expensive Nvidia chips to run such models to such outputs.
if its genuine and there's real productive uses for the AI model, then this should be brilliant for the companies providing chips and infrastucture, as everyone can access the tech direct - run their own models - on own system or in cloud, a lot of chips, datacenters still need building. market has probably panic sold without really thinking this through. the main company that would suffer is OpenAI, cant sell their current state of art, difficult to fund their gliming white elephant... i mean, next generation.
i've long thought if AI is to go anywhere it must get faster to process, or it's a dead end. if Deepseek claims are true, this is actually a bigger deal than OpenAI coming up with a incrmental improvement at vast cost of infrastucture and energy.
if its genuine and there's real productive uses for the AI model, then this should be brilliant for the companies providing chips and infrastucture, as everyone can access the tech direct - run their own models - on own system or in cloud, a lot of chips, datacenters still need building. market has probably panic sold without really thinking this through. the main company that would suffer is OpenAI, cant sell their current state of art, difficult to fund their gliming white elephant... i mean, next generation.
i've long thought if AI is to go anywhere it must get faster to process, or it's a dead end. if Deepseek claims are true, this is actually a bigger deal than OpenAI coming up with a incrmental improvement at vast cost of infrastucture and energy.
Yes, if you wanted to prety much guess the outcome - which I suppose would be good enough if you didn't really care too much about accuracy.
AI could drill down much deeper into the data and have the learning data from millions of employees, along with modelling thousands of scenarios to forcast a much more real outcome than Excel. Sacking employee A who does role X will increase profit by 14p per month, unlucky employee B ( who clocks on 3.12 minutes less per day ) will gain us 15p.
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So long as AI also assesses it's own cost to the organization,and decides whether it should also go.
ChatGPT isn't the AI endgame though. We're still in the early stages but on the cusp of world-changing advances
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