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Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
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If you're talking about the moronic "we're all having a party..." song, then I'd like to think most of us are (thankfully) in the same boat.

Palace basically made sure he never ascended to the heights he might have been capable of, by refusing to entertain bids for him when he was at his peak, resulting in him spending the bulk of his career wasting away in a largely mediocre team.

I daresay the Β£125,000 per week he was paid for much of his Palace career helps, and he could never be classed as one of life's failures, but surely he's got to be wondering what might have been.
Don't forget Beaky persuading him to sign that 5 year contract by fibbing about letting him go.
Can’t we sign him? For a laugh.
Hell no.
The ultimate panto villain, lets be honest if he'd been ours we'd would have loved him.

Its all history now from an era when Palace for a short period were a bit better than us, today they stagnate season after season
I'm not so sure. His histrionics were embarrassing.
He was "forced" by virtue of the fact that, despite what Palace fans would have you believe about all the top clubs on earth sniffing around, the only genuine offer they ever received for him was from....Everton :lol:

There are times when even Selhurst Park looks like the best option.
I believe The Arse put in a bid but insisted on instalments but given the sell on, Palace would have been out of pocket initially as well as being a world class player down.

He should never have signed that 5 year contract. I suspect it still haunts him. The tit.
 




South Stand Bonfire

Who lit that match then?
NSC Patron
Jan 24, 2009
2,867
Shoreham-a-la-mer
After reading that I almost feel sorry for him.

A faithful servant, and club legend for that team in Croydon. He did them proud and he absolutely understood the importance of the games we played against them.

I could never bring myself to sing our song for him. He was an absolute c**t but in a good way.
Please give yourself a light slap.
 


brighton_tom

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Jul 23, 2008
6,086
Regarding the loan to Charlotte FC…

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Yeah okay mate! He must have struggled to keep a straight face through that!
 


Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
9,454
Brighton
Repeating the 'who would you rather have a pint with', Zaha or any Chelsea player?
As mentioned before, he may be a dick, but he was a good dick and understood our friendly hatred of each other.
And I could never sing the "We're all having a party......" which is just embarrasing.
 
















Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,420
Surrey
This must be exactly the sort of glory he dreamed of as a small, football-mad boy growing up in south London.
As an aside, the crowd was literally twice as big as anything he played in front of at Selhurst. 51,000 people there for that one.


The guy has done what he always dreamed of and made it at the highest level. Or he’s just got a plastic crown put on him at a low standard football match - it’s hard to tell.
MLS is actually one of the top 10 leagues in the world these days. There are loads of good players now coming through that league, notably MIggy Almiron, Alphonso Davis and our very own Gomez for example.
 


Ali_rrr

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Feb 4, 2011
2,942
Utrecht, NL
As an aside, the crowd was literally twice as big as anything he played in front of at Selhurst. 51,000 people there for that one.



MLS is actually one of the top 10 leagues in the world these days. There are loads of good players now coming through that league, notably MIggy Almiron, Alphonso Davis and our very own Gomez for example.
The MLS has done very well to change it from just a retirement league to a development league with some big name players to aid the development.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,420
Surrey
The MLS has done very well to change it from just a retirement league to a development league with some big name players to aid the development.
Yes, as a strategy they are still bringing in good players on the way down from European clubs (and they still need those players) but their main focus has definitely changed to developing players in the US/Canada but also making their league the first port of call for central America, the Caribbean and some of the smaller South American nations.

Average gates have stabilised and have been consistently around 23/24,000 for about 3 years, so that league is not going to fold any time soon. Their only real concern is around television rights and how to make the jump alongside the big 4 sports leagues. Their deal with Apple is lucrative but it is unlikely anyone is watching as Apple/MLS are refusing to release viewing figures.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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As an aside, the crowd was literally twice as big as anything he played in front of at Selhurst. 51,000 people there for that one.



MLS is actually one of the top 10 leagues in the world these days. There are loads of good players now coming through that league, notably MIggy Almiron, Alphonso Davis and our very own Gomez for example.

Almiron? The others, yes, I will accept, but Almiron was RUBBISH apart from for about eight games in 2023.
 






Superphil

Dismember
Jul 7, 2003
25,832
In a pile of football shirts
Yes, as a strategy they are still bringing in good players on the way down from European clubs (and they still need those players) but their main focus has definitely changed to developing players in the US/Canada but also making their league the first port of call for central America, the Caribbean and some of the smaller South American nations.

Average gates have stabilised and have been consistently around 23/24,000 for about 3 years, so that league is not going to fold any time soon. Their only real concern is around television rights and how to make the jump alongside the big 4 sports leagues. Their deal with Apple is lucrative but it is unlikely anyone is watching as Apple/MLS are refusing to release viewing figures.
The NASL in the early 80s had some huge crowds too, and then the league went down the pan.
 


US Seagull

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Jul 17, 2003
5,327
Cleveland, OH
Yes, as a strategy they are still bringing in good players on the way down from European clubs (and they still need those players) but their main focus has definitely changed to developing players in the US/Canada but also making their league the first port of call for central America, the Caribbean and some of the smaller South American nations.

Average gates have stabilised and have been consistently around 23/24,000 for about 3 years, so that league is not going to fold any time soon. Their only real concern is around television rights and how to make the jump alongside the big 4 sports leagues. Their deal with Apple is lucrative but it is unlikely anyone is watching as Apple/MLS are refusing to release viewing figures.
I would maybe consider watching some MLS if it was anywhere except Apple.

Unless it was ESPN+, perhaps. f*** those guys.
 


Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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As an aside, the crowd was literally twice as big as anything he played in front of at Selhurst. 51,000 people there for that one.



MLS is actually one of the top 10 leagues in the world these days. There are loads of good players now coming through that league, notably MIggy Almiron, Alphonso Davis and our very own Gomez for example.
No way. In nearly every game there's still five lads who wouldn't make it in League One. Most teams wouldn't survive in the Championship.

Definitely some good players in the league and it will probably improve, but most of the domestic players are so bad (sometimes almost fascinating) that it's nowhere near a top 10 league.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,420
Surrey
The NASL in the early 80s had some huge crowds too, and then the league went down the pan.
Indeed although only a handful of clubs like the Cosmos - many of them drew flies.

By contrast, MLS has lasted 30 years and even the smallest crowds are 16,000. They nearly all play in stadiums built with football/soccer in mind rather than renting oversized, cavernous bowls.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,420
Surrey
No way. In nearly every game there's still five lads who wouldn't make it in League One. Most teams wouldn't survive in the Championship.

Definitely some good players in the league and it will probably improve, but most of the domestic players are so bad that its nowhere near a top 10 league.
Internet man in Sweden says MLS is rubbish. Opta - the largest provider of statistical data in association football - says MLS is a top 10 league.

I just don't know who to believe.

FWIW, these are Opta's rankings:
  1. Premier League (ENG)
  2. LaLiga (ESP)
  3. Serie A (ITA)
  4. Bundesliga (GER)
  5. Ligue 1 (FRA)
  6. Belgian Pro League (BEL)
  7. Primeira Liga (POR)
  8. Superligaen (DEN)
  9. Brasileirao (BRA)
  10. Major League Soccer (USA)
 


Han Solo

Well-known member
May 25, 2024
3,764
Internet man in Sweden says MLS is rubbish. Opta - the largest provider of statistical data in association football - says MLS is a top 10 league.

I just don't know who to believe.

FWIW, these are Opta's rankings:
  1. Premier League (ENG)
  2. LaLiga (ESP)
  3. Serie A (ITA)
  4. Bundesliga (GER)
  5. Ligue 1 (FRA)
  6. Belgian Pro League (BEL)
  7. Primeira Liga (POR)
  8. Superligaen (DEN)
  9. Brasileirao (BRA)
  10. Major League Soccer (USA)

Internet man in Sweden says that Optas weird ELO-system to measure "team power rankings" (which your list is based on) is absolutely shite.

This US-Mexican cup - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Leagues_Cup - where MLS teams played against various Mexican teams at home but never in Mexico - is the main reason the MLS climbed from 29th to 10th in a single year. In the CONCACAF CL, the MLS teams usually don't stand much of a chance against the teams they beat in the "Leagues Cup".

MLS being a top 10 league is complete nonsense. You can watch a game in the Turkish Super League and then in the MLS and 9 out of 10 times you will notice with your bare eyes that the former is much better.

MLS is maybe the 25th best league or so. I think even the biggest MLS fans will laugh at the idea of their league being top 10.

Internet man thinks you should strongly reconsider blind faith if anything a big organisation (like Opta) does just because it is a big organisation. The way they calculate this just isn't good enough to even be worth thinking of.
 


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