[Albion] Season ticket renewals 25/26

dazzer6666 said:

Not happening 5 times a year out of 19 for 99.99% of people.

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mile oak said:

Exactly - what if a STH is unwell, in hospital has a family emergency and/or jury service. To punish a fan thats paid upfront for the seat seems wrong. How can you possibly list your ticket on the exchange by 2pm.day before if you say wake up unwell? You buy a ST then gamble on attending. I very much doubt a ST buys a ST to not use it. Lets be honest here the system the club have set up is designed to make money on top of money already paid for the same seat. Money for old rope.

This is a situation where financially the club may wanna take note I say financially because lets face it EVERYTHING they do has that motive ONLY (it may be indirect of course) that if the coming of age fan drips out (cant afford the increase) both club and fan lose out so would that be better served with easing the rise in like a young person price inbetween the two OR do the club feel they are in a favourable (AT THE MOMENT) sit where supply demand favours them and they dont care sumone ese will fill that seat? I suspect its this latter but should the club ever struggle in PL or be relegated fans have memories

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Green Cross Code Man said:

Personally I prioritize the league. However, if given the choice of Europa League matches with the three teams I mentioned, I'd hazard you'd also prioritize those games over others if necessary.

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mile oak said:

That may be 1 but illness in a ageing population and family of say Dad and two kids if hey are young and one cant go likely rest cant, family issues it happens as reported herein this forum. You may not wanna believe it but its the reality fans live with.

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Professor Plum said:

The amount of vacuous whining on this thread is doing my head in. I'm beginning to think people are just trolling now.

It's really simple. If you think you can attend the Amex regularly, a ST makes sense. In exchange for your commitment the club gives you a cut-price deal. In my case, with my oldies concession I pay less than half the standard price of my seat.

Because of that half-price deal, if I don't go, and don't recycle the seat, the club loses about £30 every match I'm not there. So they've offered me another deal -- it's fine not to go as long as I pass on the seat or put the ticket on the Exchange the day before. And OK, because there are occasions I might not know until the day of the game, they give me a bit of leeway for a few games per season.

That's a very reasonable offer.

If I have a long-term illness or recurring family issues that mean I frequently can't attend and don't know I can't attend until the day of the game, then I can make the decision not to buy a ST.

Does this mean I won't be able to go to the Amex? NO! It doesn't! All it means is that I should buy a membership and go whenever I want. I can even decide to leave a decision until the morning of the game as there are nearly always tickets available, even for the biggest games.

As for people moaning about putting their seat on the Exchange, dear me. The benefit is that I actually get my money back (less £1) which makes the decision to put it on the Exchange a total no-brainer. My seat nearly always sells. On odd occasions when I can't go, I actually WANT to use the Exchange as it puts an unexpected £30 back in my pocket. Why on earth would I be grumbling about this?

Come on people, get a grip.

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mile oak said:

That may be 1 but illness in a ageing population and family of say Dad and two kids if hey are young and one cant go likely rest cant, family issues it happens as reported herein this forum. You may not wanna believe it but its the reality fans live with.

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Super Steve Earle said:

What if we can't go and the EExchangdoesn't open because it's not a sellout?

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Bob! said:

You are still able to put your ticket(s) on the exchange after 2pm the day before.
Then you will be able to talk to the club with your mitigating circumstances should this happen to you at such short notice on 5 occasions.

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Super Steve Earle said:

What if we can't go and the EExchangdoesn't open because it's not a sellout?

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Professor Plum said:

If I have a long-term illness or recurring family issues that mean I frequently can't attend and don't know I can't attend until the day of the game, then I can make the decision not to buy a ST.

Does this mean I won't be able to go to the Amex? NO! It doesn't! All it means is that I should buy a membership and go whenever I want. I can even decide to leave a decision until the morning of the game as there are nearly always tickets available, even for the biggest games.

As for people moaning about putting their seat on the Exchange, dear me. The benefit is that I actually get my money back (less £1) which makes the decision to put it on the Exchange a total no-brainer. My seat nearly always sells. On odd occasions when I can't go, I actually WANT to use the Exchange as it puts an unexpected £30 back in my pocket. Why on earth would I be grumbling about this?

Come on people, get a grip.

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Tom Hark Preston Park said:

STH not putting their seat on the exchange if they can't make it to a match always makes me think: would you bend down to pick up £20 or £30 or more if you saw it lying on the pavement? Of course you would. As you say, it's a no-brainer. Unless of course you have way too much disposable income

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dsr-burnley said:

There is a specific, and not particularly rare, position that people are bothered about. It's old people. In my case, it's my mother who is 91 and is - shall we say - not so fit as she was. She doesn't have any potential problem because (as Tom Hark points out) she has so much more income that she can afford to go in hospitality, where it'#s warm. (And of course she supports Burnley who don't have these rules in place.)

But suppose Burnley did have these rules. She wouldn't be able to attend more than half the games in a season, because the other half would be either too cold, or else she would not be fit that day. But she still wants to go when she can.

It is not sympathetic to tell her that if she wants to go, she can - but she has to sit somewhere else in the ground, on her own, not next to me. She doesn't want that. Many people - not just the old - want to sit with family or friends or people they have watched the game with for years. Not everyone is a Billy no-mates who attends the game on their own.

As you get old, you have to give up many of the things that you used to enjoy. Foreign holidays, domestic holidays, country walks, even popping out to the shops. The things that you enjoy and still can do, you want to keep hold of - even if it costs you a bit of extra money. If BHA would simply make clear that these people will not be ditched in favour of younger, fitter, noisier supporters, it would stop a lot of the complaints.

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Tom Hark Preston Park said:

Fair play to your 91 year old mum

I just find it hard to get my head round folks just tossing good money away for no good reason. In fact I find it a bit obscene to be honest. It shouldn't be down to the club to deliver the good news on that front. Tho here we find ourselves

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Tom Hark Preston Park said:

STH not putting their seat on the exchange if they can't make it to a match always makes me think: would you bend down to pick up £20 or £30 or more if you saw it lying on the pavement? Of course you would. As you say, it's a no-brainer. Unless of course you have way too much disposable income

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Beanstalk said:

Not particularly, I think we'd all prefer to have been watching a Ali Mac, Caicedo, Baleba midfield trio this season but that's not how we operate as a club. I trust the strategy of the club and expect the next batch of players to come through when the current trot off.

You're in absolute cuckoo land if you think a 5% rise in matchday revenue will contribute anything to the playing squad (it's around an additional £1.25m in reality) and that because the club are putting up ST prices they're going to suddenly be able to stave off interest in our best players. Is there genuinely anyone on this board who doesn't think there will be sales this summer regardless of anything that happens? We could qualify for the Champions League and we'd still be happy to keep the squad ticking over and maximising the profits - it's how we operate.

My point was that the rises contribute so little compared to the money we have brought in, and will continue to bring in, that there is really very little reason for it outside of greed.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

I understand your reasoning but don't agree with the conclusion.

If all TB wants to do is feed his greed for money he wouldn't have bought the club.

There is a business principle at work, one that must always work, and that is charging the market rate.
It is always a fine line, although when you look at what other clubs i the UK charge for things, our line looks pretty fat.

Perhaps @Weststander can explain it better.

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Weststander said:

The club would be budgeting for cost inflation eg the payroll of non playing staff. Important to balance the books including keeping ahead of the curve on income.

Profit on player sales is great, but there’s no guarantee it will carry on. It’s exceptional. Not something that can be budgeted in the medium to long term.

If and when that dries up, the outcry would be huge if the club said after an x years ST price freeze, we’re now increasing the prices by 30%.

To summarise, it’s sensible that two or three years profits on players aren’t part used to subsidise ST’s then costs.

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