[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

scoobiewhite · 2025-01-21T12:48:59+0000

Uncle Spielberg said:
And yet we elected a government that just talks down the uk, did a ridiculous anti growth budget in completely what they said they would not and left massive swathes of the community feeling utterly depressed and lacking in any positive future I am very lacking in any hope with the shower we have for this country for the next 4.5 years. Growth creators are leaving this country en masse and small and medium size business companies have been utterly battered with tax rises with starmer and reeves. Trump may be bluster but at least he gave a massive rallying call to his country something starmer and his cohorts have abjestly failed to do in 6 months

Agree with the first part, Labour made a mistake in how much doom they portrayed. Its not very motivating.

As for some other points:

Growth creators leaving the country = millionaires who don't want to pay tax, if they care that little about the UK then fine off you pop
SMEs getting battered = Ive spent 20 years building an SME through financial crisis, Brexit, Covid and the Truss budget, a £20k increase in ENIC on top of a seven figure salary bill (which is what it is costing us) is not being battered. If, and its a big if, we get better public services and NHS as a result then I'm delighted to pay our bit.

Beware rich people moaning about being less rich, they will always play up the negatives.

For example, im interested to see how many kids actually do leave private schools because 50k is affordable but 60k is ruinous!

dwayne · 2025-01-21T12:50:56+0000

Guinness Boy said:
Some of my best friends are black......

Any actual proof she's a nazi?

The Antikythera Mechanism · 2025-01-21T12:52:21+0000

JetsetJimbo said:
Okay, I'll make this simple for you:

Do you believe that "Jewish communities have been pushing hatred towards whites"? It's a yes/no answer, and any answer that isn't "no" is, in effect, a "yes"

As I have already stated I have no relationship, interaction or media awareness of what the Jewish communities are saying as they tend to keep themselves to themselves. I cannot give an answer as I don't know. However, if others make statements on the subject, they are either telling the truth or lying. If someone then agrees with what they are saying then they are either corroborating the truth or the lie. Who knows who is telling the truth, probably only the Jewish communities being referenced. That is what I believe.

Again you completely miss the point of what being a Nazi constitutes. In my opinion, making a stupid gesture that can be construed as a Nazi salute, doesnt make Musk a Nazi. He is an insanely rich odd-ball who seems to have no filter, but I'm sure that he doesn't advocate the extermination of the Jewish race as well as anti-communism, anti-Slavism, anti-Romani sentiment, scientific racism, white supremacy, Nordicism, social Darwinism, homophobia, ableism, and the use of eugenics.

And finally, to make it simple for you, if making a gesture that can be construed as a Nazi salute actually makes you, unquestionally, a Nazi, with a 100% belief in everything that Nazism stands for then, yes, Musk is a Nazi.

pocketseagull · 2025-01-21T12:53:11+0000

Rdodge30 said:
Given Musk’s previous form....

...of welcoming Nazis back to twitter, advocating for fascist parties in Europe, encouraging race riots, why not just accept what he is?

peterward · 2025-01-21T12:54:52+0000

RandyWanger said:

Everyone posting someone else waving, versus someone who constantly posts far right conspiracy theories and whom Nazi historians confirm "it was a nazi salute"

Is guilty of being a fascist apologist and trying to dilute Musks fascist tendencies.

Guinness Boy · 2025-01-21T12:57:38+0000

dwayne said:
Any actual proof she's a nazi?

Are you reading the thread? AFD are being supported by the Nazi saluting Musk. Their former leader resigned the party chairmanship in 2022 claiming the party had developed very far to the right with totalitarian traits. And he probably knows better than you.....

Actually, no, screw it. I expect you're correct and they're all just having a little social media giggle. What japes! If elected I'm sure they'd just make the trains run on time.

Stato · 2025-01-21T13:02:15+0000

I hadn't heard that President Grandpa Simpson had ordered that the Department of the Interior change the name of Denali back to Mount Mckinley. People say that he is scattergun and has no political ideology, but it seems that Trumpist ideology can be summed up with the statement:

"I don't understand anymore. Stop change! Let's make everything like it was when we were young," or perhaps more succinctly "We're old and scared of death!"

Not going to help you. Voting in Trump is just the last flapping of a dying fish.

Thunder Bolt · 2025-01-21T13:07:57+0000

Rdodge30 said:
Given Musk’s previous form, I think that this is all about the attention gained rather than a political statement.

He knows full well how to get the whole world to look at him and he has done so yet again

It was just a jolly jape like calling a cave rescuer, who was saving lives, a pedo guy.

What a wag, eh?

Rodney Thomas · 2025-01-21T13:22:31+0000

On Musk....

He's a white South African, what did you all expect?

n1 gull · 2025-01-21T13:26:46+0000

dwayne said:
Any actual proof she's a nazi?

Yep it's all the free speech and anti-censorship, oh hang on

Eeyore · 2025-01-21T13:41:19+0000

Guinness Boy said:
Are you reading the thread? AFD are being supported by the Nazi saluting Musk. Their former leader resigned the party chairmanship in 2022 claiming the party had developed very far to the right with totalitarian traits. And he probably knows better than you.....

Actually, no, screw it. I expect you're correct and they're all just having a little social media giggle. What japes! If elected I'm sure they'd just make the trains run on time.

They must just get some commuters in the south-east here with that one

Eeyore · 2025-01-21T13:42:55+0000

Rodney Thomas said:
On Musk....

He's a white South African, what did you all expect?

Not sure why that is posted. The only two South Africans I know were anti-segregation. Wrong to make such assumptions.

Guinness Boy · 2025-01-21T13:45:29+0000

n1 gull said:
Yep it's all the free speech and anti-censorship, oh hang on

Well, no. Of course they want their OWN speech to be uncensored so they can promote their anti-Jewish and Islamophobic view points as hard as they like but they absolutely hate anything about climate change or the holocaust and want all of that shut down. They also want to ban the call to prayer, kosher slaughter and same sex marriage.

dwayne · 2025-01-21T13:47:01+0000

Guinness Boy said:
Are you reading the thread? AFD are being supported by the Nazi saluting Musk. Their former leader resigned the party chairmanship in 2022 claiming the party had developed very far to the right with totalitarian traits. And he probably knows better than you.....

Actually, no, screw it. I expect you're correct and they're all just having a little social media giggle. What japes! If elected I'm sure they'd just make the trains run on time.

So what you're saying is ... You don't have any proof that the lady that musk interviewed is a nazi. Cool.

Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ · 2025-01-21T13:48:06+0000

One of the best known rioters to attack the Capitol on January 6 is Jake Angeli-Chansley, who went in shirtless and wearing horns and furs on his head.

He was pardoned by Donald Trump yesterday, and wrote the following on X when he got the news:

jackanada · 2025-01-21T13:50:22+0000

The Antikythera Mechanism said:
I dont believe Musk is a Nazi, a Fascist, yes, but not a Nazi.

Nothing good about Fascism, but it's not Nazism.

Oh ok, so he's a fascist who just likes to look like a Nazi and has a lot of support among fascists who also like Nazi salutes and flags.

BrickTamland · 2025-01-21T13:51:45+0000

Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ said:
One of the best known rioters to attack the Capitol on January 6 is Jake Angeli-Chansley, who went in shirtless and wearing horns and furs on his head.

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He was pardoned by Donald Trump yesterday, and wrote the following on X when he got the news:

The only good news about this is gun owners are statistically more likely to use them on themselves than anyone else…

HisBetterBall · 2025-01-21T13:52:19+0000

Trump has won. America is saved

Rdodge30 · 2025-01-21T13:58:00+0000

Thunder Bolt said:
It was just a jolly jape like calling a cave rescuer, who was saving lives, a pedo guy.

What a wag, eh?

No not funny at all. He is a master of control and a master of seeking attention- witness this discussion, job done.

Thunder Bolt · 2025-01-21T14:02:58+0000

Rdodge30 said:
No not funny at all. He is a master of control and a master of seeking attention- witness this discussion, job done.

On the contrary, I think he has no 'control' except money. He certainly has no filter.

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