pigmanovich
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It is! And his current club happens to be a bit shambolic at the moment
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[Albion] Pascal Groß the raumdeuter - officially leaves for Dortmund :(
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Sorrel
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Doesn't sound that dissimilar to another club we know well.
Justice
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Why would Sahin have to go and one win 9 FH doesn’t?
Just maybe they are choosing to back their new manager to?
pigmanovich
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Might I suggest that Dortmund fans have slightly higher expectations of their club than us
For the record, we are still in the cup and have lost four all season, compared with Dortmund’s seven defeats. We haven’t been beaten by relegation sides, either, which Dortmund have.
God forbid we lose three on the bounce under Fabian, the way you’ve taken to him so far I expect you’d end up in hospital @Justice
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I think Dortmund fans should respond by agreeing to drive Pascal to the airport themselves and send him back to where they got him from
Because they're expected to be top 3 and we're not?
Its not massively difficult to understand the difference.
- Oct 17, 2008
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Probably because they play in front of 81,000 fans at home, and their record of league finishes starting from last season going back is:
(currently 10th), 5th, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 7th, 2nd, 2nd, 1st, 1st
In that period, they’ve won the German cup 3 times, the Supercup 3 times, and just last season were Champions League finalists.
Sahin’s record is P: 25, W: 12, D: 4, L: 9 and they are on course so far for their worst finish in 15 years, and second worst in 25 years. And they already crashed out of the cup in the second round, so Europe looking very unlikely for next season.
Hürzeler, on the other hand, is in a higher league position so far than last season’s finish, with a similar (but marginally worse) PPG record than Sahin, but having lost fewer games. The difference being that Brighton have had two top half finishes in the Premier League - ever. We’ve been in Europe once, and have never won any competition of note.
The expectations are completely different.
Add on top of that, the PL is the wealthiest, toughest and most evenly competitive league in world football, and the gulf in finances between the teams is far slimmer than the Bundesliga.
Sahin is underachieving, Hürzeler isn’t.
FH is 2 defeats in 11 in the PL.
I would argue multiple Bundesliga-winners and previous Champions League finalists Dortmund have a higher level of expectation than we do
- Nov 15, 2006
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Sorry I disagree, they most certainly do not have higher expectations than @JusticeMight I suggest that Dortmund fans have slightly higher expectations of their club than us
For the record, we are still in the cup and have lost four all season, compared with Dortmund’s seven defeats. We haven’t been beaten by relegation sides, either, which Dortmund have.
God forbid we lose three on the bounce under Fabian, the way you’ve taken to him so far I expect you’d end up in hospital @Justice
fly high
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Lifelong Supporter
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Yes that would be a sound career move. He'd only have to play an hour for us and we'd have a suitable replacement waiting. No 90 minute stamina challenges. There's a space waiting right for him right next to Baleba who he could school with his midfield know how and what a player we would have then!
pigmanovich
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albionfan37
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Justice
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If you consider a contentious VAR decision being the difference between getting beat by currently the worst side in PL history at home and throwing away the most points from winning positions in the league ‘good’ then I suppose you have a point.Might I suggest that Dortmund fans have slightly higher expectations of their club than us
For the record, we are still in the cup and have lost four all season, compared with Dortmund’s seven defeats. We haven’t been beaten by relegation sides, either, which Dortmund have.
God forbid we lose three on the bounce under Fabian, the way you’ve taken to him so far I expect you’d end up in hospital @Justice
Washie
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This is a really stupid thing to say
pigmanovich
Good Old Sausage by the Sea
I don’t, but a PL season is 38 matches long, so I’m not about to wet the bed over one disappointing result.
Oh, and a reminder that we drew at home against both Sheffield Utd and Burnley last season - this was before De Zerbi mentally checked out - so the Southampton draw is hardly grounds for this magnitude of headloss.
Machiavelli
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It isn't, but it is for the odd poster.
TottonSeagull
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Or you could say 4 wins in 11?
