ROSM
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[Albion] Albion Boxing Day - Martin Samuel
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Reads like a bitter anti Labour, anti net zero rant from a man who talks about money ruining the game but also wanted Newcastle to be able to spend what they wanted because they could.
I gave up on the populist bilge after the first column but I certainly got the gist.
I gave up on the populist bilge after the first column but I certainly got the gist.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Nowhere near as big a deal as he tries to make out it is.....
Cast ourselves back over 15 years, in Withdean and with limited, imperfect options to build a new home in Brighton, who wouldn't still choose the Amex if that meant home boxing day fixtures have to be played on 27th?
I doubt many, if any.
We have a beautiful home that means a lot more considering our past struggles.
Boxing day is no biggie.
Cast ourselves back over 15 years, in Withdean and with limited, imperfect options to build a new home in Brighton, who wouldn't still choose the Amex if that meant home boxing day fixtures have to be played on 27th?
I doubt many, if any.
We have a beautiful home that means a lot more considering our past struggles.
Boxing day is no biggie.
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This personal view is wildly different to this Cheating Mansour apologist’s, an outsider with little Albion knowledge.
Falmer was literally the only possible place for an Albion stadium. Waterhall for example wasn’t feasible because a new train station would’ve been too near the rail tunnel under the Mill Road downs. If this means no Boxing Day football every other year, what a small sacrifice.
I wouldn’t have gone to a Boxing Day game anyway, the two Xmas days are sacrosanct family time. Getting out on the 27th was perfect for us, loved it. Regardless of the result.
Falmer was literally the only possible place for an Albion stadium. Waterhall for example wasn’t feasible because a new train station would’ve been too near the rail tunnel under the Mill Road downs. If this means no Boxing Day football every other year, what a small sacrifice.
I wouldn’t have gone to a Boxing Day game anyway, the two Xmas days are sacrosanct family time. Getting out on the 27th was perfect for us, loved it. Regardless of the result.
An interesting article. I don’t agree the lack of drivers is Brexit related though, in my opinion the rail service started to go down hill when Southern Fail was in dispute with rail related union 7/8 years ago and the drivers started to refuse to undertake overtime and it has never really recovered. Pre Covid it was almost impossible to squeeze yourself on train between Shoreham and Brighton for a 3pm KO from 12.30 pm onwards. The rail companies basically don’t give a t@ss in my opinion (with apologies to Jack Albion; my anger is directed to Southern Fail’s hierarchy).
What does he mean " no public car park". Where are those cars that queue up to go under the bridge coming from? It's also strange that the park and ride facility is glossed over.
And there's a bit of hindsight involved here, when the stadium was planned there were certainly bus services running on Boxing Day. I remember catching one to see my mum in hospital.
And there's a bit of hindsight involved here, when the stadium was planned there were certainly bus services running on Boxing Day. I remember catching one to see my mum in hospital.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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Very well said.
Having to put a game back a day is a real first world problem compared to where we were
Sorrel
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The original planning permission for the ground described the car parks that could be used within 1.5KM of the ground and limited their number - to around 2,300. What he is saying is that the club can't increase the number of car parking spaces.
In practice - with the loss of Bennetts Field - the club probably could add some more now, if they could work out where to put them. But not enough to make any difference for games where there are few trains.
Man of Harveys
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Without wishing to sound precious - he is trying to be nice/sympathetic towards us after all - but that’s just an awful article from top to bottom: tone deaf and hugely under-informed. That paper…honestly.
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ROSM
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It was a planning policy from 1996 that all new developments could only have NEW car parking to cater for c15% of the expected footfall. The bridge and Bennett field were the new spaces based on 4 per car and an initial capacity of 22500. The subsequent labour govt and subsequent coalitions, tory and now labour haven't rescinded that policy and as we expanded we didn't/couldnt find land to build any more new spaces.
I was, miss Boxing Day football.Me wondering who asked him.I was definitely not bothered about not having to go to the Amex on Boxing Day
27th in the evening is an inconvenience, however @peterward has nailed it.
As there are no trains from Seaford / Newhaven Boxing Day matches in the past have been an inconvenience, especially for fans that don’t drive.
I’m not really a fan of Friday night games during a normal working week, but I wasn’t working on the 27th.
Definitely agree about the post from @peterward spot on.
Not Andy Naylor
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And the headline is just plain wrong. We played at home to Brentford on Boxing Day 2021. Although admittedly the crowd was adversely affected by transport issues.
Black Rod
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- Jan 19, 2013
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The idea suggested by that article that an independent football regulator is a bad idea because Brighton cannot play home games on Boxing Day (which we did three years ago in front of under 15,000) screams of an argument put forward to a journalist who is anti independent regulator by a club who are anti independent regulator
Being unable to increase the number of car parking spaces is very different from "there is no car park". I'd imagine there are a large number of clubs that would not find it possible to increase the number of parking spaces.
sussex_guy2k2
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- Jun 6, 2014
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What a strange article.
pasty
A different kind of pasty
And the utterly ridiculous 8pm ko
Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
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Yep, same here. No understanding that public transport workers, stewards, catering staff etc. might want a Christmas break. I guess his defence of football fans didn't get on to the Leicester fans who had to travel over 100 miles home after 10 o'clock that evening. Television money insists that football takes place on Boxing Day to the detriment of match going fans. If he cared, he'd be arguing for some kind of winter break in the professional game. Boxing day football could be about going to watch your local non-league side: short travelling distances and sensible kick off times: See a match, see your friends and get home in time to see whichever of your nan/kids/spouse/cat who didn't come with you.
'No! I demand professional football on this date because it has always been so!'
'Sorry Martin, Don't you want to spend the day with your family and friends?'
'I'm a Fleet Street hack.'
'I'm sorry that was insensitive of me.'
He relishes in taking a dig at Prescott, although it wasn't Prescott, but Hazel Blears who made the final planning decision and he blames central government for planning requirements made by local government. Shoddy. Unresearched. Reactionary. Stick to 'What's going wrong at Man Utd?' David Conn you ain't.