SittingbourneSeagull
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I love the fact that he is the picture on the January page of the Argyle calendar. Didnt even make it to January.
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[Football] Wayne Rooney’s Plymouth (not any more - 31/12/24)
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I want to disprove your comment about fat-faced football managers being unsuccessful.
All I’ve got so far is Steve Evans.
Is that enough ammo for a heated BINFEST?
Sorrel
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I'd guess they put him on January on the assumption he was likely to still be around for that.
….and told the club he would forgo compensation so they had more available to spend in the transfer window…….
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Reckon Coleen doesn't even bother upping sticks after her man. She knows he'll always be sacked far sooner rather than later 
BBassic
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Said it before but Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard and probably Terry (when he finally wangles himself a managers job) will be the managerial merry-go-round appointments for the next twenty years or so.
The next generation of Pulis, Allardyce and whoever else. Minus the nous. Which is saying something.
The next generation of Pulis, Allardyce and whoever else. Minus the nous. Which is saying something.
Cowfold Seagull
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Well she seemed to be enjoying the game at Goodison yesterday from the look of her.Reckon Coleen doesn't even bother upping sticks after her man. She knows he'll always be sacked far sooner rather than later
Leekbrookgull
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There will be a desperate board of directors somewhere who will see him as the answer to their problems at their respective club and it my even be in Scotland.
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
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I really don't understand this "he was a great player therefore he will make a great manager" belief that seems to invade club owners and boards thinking.
Rooney, Lampard etc all given managers jobs at a reasonable level and none of them have actually improved a team. Frank Lampards Derby, Frank Lampards Chelsea, Wayne Rooneys Derby, Wayne Rooneys Birmingham , Wayne Roonets Plymouth etc- none of which improved the clubs position
Very rarely does any club that is usually referred to by pundits with the managers name before club name do well (see above for examples), the club is ALWAYS bigger than any one person and stickingin an ex player with little managerial experience isnt going to win anything (generally)
Rooney, Lampard etc all given managers jobs at a reasonable level and none of them have actually improved a team. Frank Lampards Derby, Frank Lampards Chelsea, Wayne Rooneys Derby, Wayne Rooneys Birmingham , Wayne Roonets Plymouth etc- none of which improved the clubs position
Very rarely does any club that is usually referred to by pundits with the managers name before club name do well (see above for examples), the club is ALWAYS bigger than any one person and stickingin an ex player with little managerial experience isnt going to win anything (generally)
kojak
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- Jan 17, 2022
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We all know that old boy
But thanks for writing it down
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
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Wow, thanks for your enlightening comment. If the prerequisite for posting on here was make sure its nothing that is known or been said before it would be a very small forum! But thanks for writing your comment old chap
hart's shirt
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I'm a celebrity manager...get me out of here!Reckon Coleen doesn't even bother upping sticks after her man. She knows he'll always be sacked far sooner rather than later
papachris
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At least they can get over his face after the first month
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...and, of course, football fans, including Albion fans. For example: Bruno, Liam Rosenior, Inigo Calderon etc......
US Seagull
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I've always had this feeling that somewhat less successful players might make better mangers. The supremely talented, and naturally gifted, players often don't have to try very hard. It comes naturally so why work hard? While the less talented have to make up for their lack of God given gifts by working much harder and developing a deeper understanding of the game. And watching the game from the bench, sat behind the manger can give you a chance to learn what the manager is thinking and watching during a game.
For example, I doubt Ronaldo would be much of a manager.
That's not to say there aren't great players who became great managers, but I think there are more less successful players who manage.
withdeanwombat
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Well, one fantastic ex player and absolutely mind blowingly brilliant manager has just been knighted!
sussex_guy2k2
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- Jun 6, 2014
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Ancelotti, Zidane, Guardiola, Luis Enrique, Franck Rijkaard, Capello, Del Bosque… there’s been more than enough examples of great players becoming great managers, with these guys all recent CL winning managers.
Xavi recently won La Liga with Barca, Xabi Alonso won the Bundesliga with Leverkusen last year, Vincent Kompany is the current Bayern manager.
Don’t get me wrong, the Mourinhos, the Benitez’s, the Klopp’s, the Flick’s of this world have all been very successful as managers without being great players, but there’s just as many examples of great players becoming great managers.
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
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I don't think its a case of great players never make great managers, obviously some of the very best do, but it seems that there are a few (Lampard, Rooney, Neville prime examples) who didn't have any experience , weren't "apprenticed" (like Liam Rosenior was at Brighton, Arteta at Man City) who are simply given jobs at Championship, or Premier League Level , and continue to get jobs because of who they were as players, not because they showed great coaching and managerial potential towards the end and just after their playing careers, or showed any real aptitude in their first managerial roles
nicko31
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Exceptional players rarely ever make exceptional managers
Usually they're shite
Usually they're shite