[Albion] 2 lucky VAR calls in last two matches?

Deadly Danson · Friday at 11:21 PM

Have we got lucky with no red cards for Pervis v West Ham and Pedro tonight? They could have both easily have gone against us probably changing the result in both and having 2 x 3 match suspensions for important players.

I personally thought Pervis was a red but tonight's wasn't as he didn't make contact (I don't think).

Richy_Seagull · Friday at 11:21 PM

Both absolutely nailed on reds.

Man of Harveys · Friday at 11:22 PM

Pedro even missed THAT

Kalimantan Gull · Friday at 11:23 PM

Pervis got quite a lot of the ball, so can't see that being overturned by VAR.

Brentford seem quite insistent that Pedro should have seen red. It would be really strange if someone was sent off for completely missing someone with an elbow, having said that though if he threw a punch and missed you would still expect the red. But in this case I think his 'elbow' was controlled enough that there wasn't intent to hit him.....

martin tyler · Friday at 11:25 PM

Watched on TV tonight. Seemed to be consensus that as no contact made he shouldn’t be sent off. That was the ex ref and commentators views but I think everyone could agree it was a stupid thing to do.
Having been at West Ham I thought it was a red then and still do now.

Han Solo · Friday at 11:25 PM

Yes incredibly lucky.

The case tonight is one where the club should step in and ban the player.

Both getting a red card (which would have been the case if he had hit) and a perhaps 2 months long suspension and trying to elbow another player in the face is completely unacceptable and needs to be labelled and treated as such.

Bozza · Friday at 11:26 PM

Clattenburg explained that it couldn't be a red, under the rules of the game, as there was no contact.

He said intent has nothing to do with it, so whether Pedro did intend to connect or not, makes no difference.

So tonight seems to be a cast-iron non-red by the letter of the law.

Quinney · Friday at 11:26 PM

Both lucky not to see red.

jcdenton08 · Friday at 11:27 PM

I thought it was a red.

Kalimantan Gull · Friday at 11:28 PM

Bozza said:
Clattenburg explained that it couldn't be a red, under the rules of the game, as there was no contact.

He said intent has nothing to do with it, so whether Pedro did intend to connect or not, makes no difference.

So tonight seems to be a cast-iron non-red by the letter of the law.

I think if he threw a punch and missed it would be very surprising if a red wasn't shown.

But I don1 think Pedro's elbow was that close to the guy in the end, he seemed to have it controlled and it was more an act of frustration than intent to hit anyone

jcdenton08 · Friday at 11:29 PM

Bozza said:
Clattenburg explained that it couldn't be a red, under the rules of the game, as there was no contact.

He said intent has nothing to do with it, so whether Pedro did intend to connect or not, makes no difference.

So tonight seems to be a cast-iron non-red by the letter of the law.

Very odd because I’ve just posted the relevant Law and guidelines and they contradict this.

The only thing I am thinking is that he assessed it as “Serious Foul Play” rather than “Violent Conduct”.

pb21 · Friday at 11:29 PM

Did he try to hit the Brentford player? Not convinced he did, if he did it should be red though.

Da Man Clay · Friday at 11:30 PM

pb21 said:
Did he try to hit the Brentford player? Not convinced he did, if he did it should be red though.

100% yes.

South Stand Bonfire · Friday at 11:32 PM

I’ve seen the replay which backs up my opinion at the time that he should have shown his frustration in a different way but it was never a red card.

LamieRobertson · Friday at 11:32 PM

we got the free kick….Brentford player seemed to be pulling his shirt back

Triggaaar · Friday at 11:33 PM

martin tyler said:
Watched on TV tonight. Seemed to be consensus that as no contact made he shouldn’t be sent off. That was the ex ref and commentators views but I think everyone could agree it was a stupid thing to do.

So the elbow missed. Did their player then go down injured, from no contact? Or was it someone else on the floor?

LamieRobertson · Friday at 11:33 PM

pb21 said:
Did he try to hit the Brentford player? Not convinced he did, if he did it should be red though.

No ..101% …..that beats the 100% yes…I win

LamieRobertson · Friday at 11:34 PM

Triggaaar said:
So the elbow missed. Did their player then go down injured, from no contact? Or was it someone else on the floor?

Hard to tell as Brentford players seemed to go down quite a lot

clapham_gull · Friday at 11:34 PM

pb21 said:
Did he try to hit the Brentford player? Not convinced he did, if he did it should be red though.

Didn't look like it on TV, appeared to pull his arm in to avoid contact.

f***ing stupid thing to do but was clearly a gesture.

Won't do that again.

South Stand Bonfire · Friday at 11:34 PM

Han Solo said:
Yes incredibly lucky.

The case tonight is one where the club should step in and ban the player.

Both getting a red card (which would have been the case if he had hit) and a perhaps 2 months long suspension and trying to elbow another player in the face is completely unacceptable and needs to be labelled and treated as such.

What have you been smoking tonight?! It was never a red card. He was never in danger of hitting his head. Petulant maybe but not violent or likely to connect .

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