rogersix
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[Politics] Is democracy in crisis?
- Thread starter Pavilionaire
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- Oct 12, 2022
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To speak frankly, democracy has always been in crisis and always will be. There has never been a time when democracy has run unimpeded by individuals on all sides wanting to turn events, situations or decisions in their favour.
I think social media has perhaps made it easier for us to see where pressure is being applied, but the nature of parliamentary democracy is such that it doesn’t have the speed of movement to counter fast-moving threats, even if it sees them. We don’t want “fast” legislation, we want well thought through and effective legislation, which takes time, and inevitably requires the expansion of the Civil Service and cost of government. Small government is a pipe dream all the time we keep enacting new laws and not repealing old laws.
Money buys power, we have followed America (wrongly) in believing that unfettered inequality is desirable and permissible, and we will not elect a government that would act against this principle. We’re in the age of the shopkeeper, where financial power = political power. Just look at Musk’s intervention in US politics. He all but shut America’s government down without being in any form of office. Frightening and to be repeated over here.
Musk threatens to fund Reform, the result? The Conservatives remain hard right to appease him. At the point that people tire of Labour, they elect a hard-right Conservative Party as a protest, and the money put into public services decreases further to pay for tax cuts for Musk and his pals.
We’re owned, and we’d need a far greater share of the British electorate to take politics seriously and genuinely think about their choices before this situation could change.
I think social media has perhaps made it easier for us to see where pressure is being applied, but the nature of parliamentary democracy is such that it doesn’t have the speed of movement to counter fast-moving threats, even if it sees them. We don’t want “fast” legislation, we want well thought through and effective legislation, which takes time, and inevitably requires the expansion of the Civil Service and cost of government. Small government is a pipe dream all the time we keep enacting new laws and not repealing old laws.
Money buys power, we have followed America (wrongly) in believing that unfettered inequality is desirable and permissible, and we will not elect a government that would act against this principle. We’re in the age of the shopkeeper, where financial power = political power. Just look at Musk’s intervention in US politics. He all but shut America’s government down without being in any form of office. Frightening and to be repeated over here.
Musk threatens to fund Reform, the result? The Conservatives remain hard right to appease him. At the point that people tire of Labour, they elect a hard-right Conservative Party as a protest, and the money put into public services decreases further to pay for tax cuts for Musk and his pals.
We’re owned, and we’d need a far greater share of the British electorate to take politics seriously and genuinely think about their choices before this situation could change.
There will always be the Mike Johnson's of the world who bow down to the Trump/Musks and kick the can down the road and try to appease everyone so they can grovel at the feet of those in power. He did get a bill passed that didn't fix a thing but the government workers will not suffer a non-Christmas season.
Crawley Dingo
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- Mar 31, 2022
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This is called defending bullshit. A usually accurate poll said +3 for Harris but ended up +13 for Trump, that is 16 points. The CEO resigned the next day, it was rigging.
When else has any government sued a newspaper for publishing a poll that turned out to be inaccurate?
SLAPP, pure and simple.