There appear to be some, put kindly, ignorant comments, put harshly, quite dumb! To suggest Owen, Bale or Rooney all peaked at 18 beggars belief.
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Exactly, and apparently they have a buy back option on him. That might not get clicks though.
Brian Munich
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To be fair, I think Owen did peak at France 98 and the subsequent season. Still had a glittering career and was a natural goal scorer, but he was never quite the same devastatinlgy quick player once he started getting those injuries.
Also appeared to be a prize knob if that soccer skills video is anything to go by.
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I know it's not the point of this thread, nor this current conversation, but that pictureThe BBC Gossip website just aggregates rumours from elsewhere. Here’s the actual source:
Pep Guardiola sets his sights on one-goal striker for Man City | CaughtOffside
Pep Guardiola needs to find solutions to Man City’s woeful form of late, and one of those might be, surprisingly, to sign striker, Evan Ferguson, from Brighton and Hove Albion. The 20-year-old has seemingly fallen out of favour under Fabian Hurzeler, and the lack of confidence which comes as a...www.caughtoffside.com
Which appears to be grade A bollocks, citing no sources, reasoning or connections. It’s simply the word of Jason Pettigrove at “Caught Offside”.
At least they had the decency to say it was AI-produced guff. Many don't/wouldn't.
Rooney and Owen did. They obviously had good careers but they were at their best at 18 when they were unplayable - they didn't hit those heights after that. That’s a fairly widely held view in football, hardly dumb to say it.
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sussex_guy2k2
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Owen maybe. Rooney may not have hit the same heights for England after ‘04, but his best seasons for Utd were 09-10 and 11-12. He was comfortably older than 18 in these seasons.
Owen got the Ballon D’Or when he was 21
Fulham interested according to the Indy>
www.independent.co.uk
Fulham eyeing surprise swoop for Brighton star Evan Ferguson
The Irish striker is struggling for game-time with the Seagulls after injury
www.independent.co.uk
Obviously not bale. But whether Rooney and Owen peaked at 18 is a fair debate. The wrecking ball version of Rooney seen at the euros in 2004 , was never seen again.
By his own admission, Owen was never the same player once the hamstring went aged 19.Still a good player, but lacked explosive pace.
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Especially with Welbeck currently not fit, I can't believe we are even considering this.
I'm not hugely concerned by his lack of goals in those 20 minutes a week. It's his seeming lack of effort I'm concerned about.
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I think it was his first game, got fouled heavily (welcome to big boys game) and about 5 mins later he fouled the bloke who fouled him. It was a very noticeable strong reaction , we seen nothing of that now , no aggression and no strength maybe his issue is nothing to do with confidence its more a need to regain strength. Like the idea of him playing some U21 games, IF his head is screwed on as much as we think/thought it was then that surely will not be seen negatively by him.
Ludicrous if we loan to them. Can't see it.Fulham interested according to the Indy>
Fulham eyeing surprise swoop for Brighton star Evan Ferguson
The Irish striker is struggling for game-time with the Seagulls after injury
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And Rooney peak in Portugal 2004
Owen and Rooney got a lot of hype during these respective tournaments. That they got a lot of attention doesn't mean they were never as good again.
Why are the people talking about Rooney and Owen peaking at 18 only talking about their England careers?
Owen's best period was 2001-2004 when he scored 100 goals over 4 seasons, won the FA Cup, two League Cups and a UEFA Cup and the Ballon d'Or and was nigh on unplayable.
Rooney's best years were at Manchester United, and he only signed for them at 18. His best years there were a lot later too, maybe 2004-2008?
Owen's best period was 2001-2004 when he scored 100 goals over 4 seasons, won the FA Cup, two League Cups and a UEFA Cup and the Ballon d'Or and was nigh on unplayable.
Rooney's best years were at Manchester United, and he only signed for them at 18. His best years there were a lot later too, maybe 2004-2008?
After 21, not 18
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As someone’s mentioned, statistically Rooney’s best seasons for United were 09/10 and 11/12 (34 goals in all comps), by which point he was in his mid-20s.
sussex_guy2k2
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You see I think that’s a lazy way of looking at it. He’s hardly Chuba Akpom.
He looks confused to me - unsure of what’s expected of him. And let’s be honest, it’s difficult to know exactly what’s expected of you when you get 20 minutes a week, at most, and the tactical requirements at those points of each game may well be different.
The bigger concern for me is that he still doesn’t look fit. But again, how are you ever going to get fit off of 20 minutes a week…
sussex_guy2k2
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I didn't want to ruin his ignorance with cold hard facts, but I had to.