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[Football] Southgate knighthood ? what do you think ?



















Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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I think there's worse things in the world to worry about. Bobby Robson got one. He's certainly not the 'least deserving'
Agreed. And although his club record wasn't a patch on Robson's in international football terms he achieved more than Sir Bobby did. (I know, I know, every other nation was rubbish, he should have done better with the players he had, every other England manager was better, etc etc etc).

Not fussed either way. (And Geoff Hurst got one for little more than one match)
 


rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
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Of course not. He had one job; win the Euros or World Cup. He failed. You shouldn't be rewarded for failure.

Look at our cycling knights: Hoy, Kenny, Wiggins, Cavendish and Dames Laura Kenny and the GOAT Dame Sarah Storey. All of them serial winners at Olympics and Worlds.

The rewarding of a serial loser just demonstrates why we need to get rid of this archaic system.
 






fly high

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Aug 25, 2011
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Agreed. And although his club record wasn't a patch on Robson's in international football terms he achieved more than Sir Bobby did. (I know, I know, every other nation was rubbish, he should have done better with the players he had, every other England manager was better, etc etc etc).

Not fussed either way. (And Geoff Hurst got one for little more than one match)
I always thought Geoff Hurst got his because of the complete failure to give one to Bobby Moore
 


Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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Well. He's boring, British and weird. Natural born British-weirdo-award winner.
 












beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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very very daft. have to wonder who and how they vet the nominations, because about every year there's an odd one that just creates negative publicity. you'd think they'd recognise that problem and look to be more reserved and considered, then they announce a gong for someone most famous for almost winning a trophy.
 






ManOfSussex

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Apr 11, 2016
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Chris Coleman has an OBE too, used to play for Palace as well and didn't win anything as an international manager just like Southgate - is he going to be Knighted too?
 




Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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Does this mean he'll get a Waist Coat Of Arms?

Presumably Three Lions rampant in quadrants 1-3 and a keeper saving a penalty in the 4th, on a field of gules and azure, with the motto "Nimis Defensus".
 


Giraffe

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Wind back to pre Southgate. We were a joke, none of the players really wanted to play for England, and the country had given up on the team. It was really that bad. Succesive managers had failed despite having a golden era of players.

Under his leadership this was completely turned around and we reached two Euro finals and a world cup final.

By any measure he is the second most successful England manager in history.

He has also done that with dignity and humility.

Just because he is ex Palace and didn't pick Brighton players (generally) doesn't mean we can't respect what he achieved. He gave me some of my best England supporting moments ever. For that I'd happily knight him. Southgate you're the one.
 


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