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Dave the hatosaurus

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Aug 22, 2021
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worthing
Maybe Barber needs to introduce a new ‘surging’ section on away tickets
That's got me thinking ......... how about a large perspex box with sprinklers in the top and a hydraulic ram at the back with room for about 50 people say. When we score someone pushes a button all the sprinklers shower those inside with beer and the ram instantly lobs those at the back into those at the front. We could call it "the full experience" and charge extra to enter it! They'll be queuing round the block to give it a go surely.
 






HCxUK

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Apr 18, 2014
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That's got me thinking ......... how about a large perspex box with sprinklers in the top and a hydraulic ram at the back with room for about 50 people say. When we score someone pushes a button all the sprinklers shower those inside with beer and the ram instantly lobs those at the back into those at the front. We could call it "the full experience" and charge extra to enter it! They'll be queuing round the block to give it a go surely.

What about a large perspex box for anyone that gets upset by people standing in the aisles or people celebrating goals?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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The age profile of NSC is directing a lot of this debate.

When I was 20 something I acted like a total bell end at away games, I had an incredible time, I cemented my love for my club and I feel the current crop of 20 something year olds have the right to do the same.

There are limits of course, no violent behaviour, no racism. But throwing a few beers? Fine it's an away game. Standing in a corridor? Lethal behaviour. Lethal! Bundling forward when there's a goal? I think when McShane scored at Palace I ended up about 8 rows forward and on the floor. Maybe not the safest, but if I had the right to create these memories for myself, so do our current crop.

It's an away game, so I won't take my kids. When they are old enough to mix it, they can go

I should say, I don't doubt there are a fair few who are old enough to know better who are still getting involved. Again, whatever. It's not lunch with the King. Go enjoy
I think the issue is when certain behaviour impinges on people who don’t want to be involved. People can do what they like, but if it impacts me and my enjoyment then I take a very different view. Taking our seats, throwing beer, trying to “involve yourself” with me and then pick a fight…you can do one.
 




albionalex

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Feb 26, 2009
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Whatever, you can just ignore the fact that we're being spoken to like children and are going to be under even more surveillance from the club.

And also make fun of people who use the word 'ain't' (to be fair, this whole board seems to be obsessed with 'chavs', never ever hear that word anymore yet see it on here daily).

Standing in aisles, surging when your team scores happens in every away end across the country. 'Limbs' are celebrated online and is a big part of away fan culture.

Of course it's not nice to have beer spilt on you, but I've had drinks spilt on me at gigs, at pubs, at the cricket. It just happens at places where people drink a lot of alcohol. I don't think chucking a pint in the air is a particularly nice thing to do, but I also don't think it needs an email from the club, it's the sort of thing that should be self policed, or even just a word from a steward in the ground. I don't have kids, if I did I wouldn't take them to an away match until they were old enough to not be upset by these kinds of things.

Your arsey reply is obviously very funny to a certain type of poster on here, but I find the sanitisation of modern football insanely depressing and think it's a bigger issue.

surging forward is part of what makes people love aways, and as for sitting in your seat-ask them to move and they will
Can you have limbs without a surge ?

I have been in our away end loads of time where we have had a last minute winner with 'limbs' and there hasn't been a surge.

Most normal people jump up and down, celebrate with those around them.

I have also been in a way end where someone from a few rows back comes flying into the person next to me and the person behind me pushes my Dad over.

If you can't celebrate a goal without surging I am not sure what's wrong with you.
 




portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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Probably not the best week to release this after being stuffed by Palarse at home 🙄
Very much this. That evening the Albion website also had ‘Remain Undefeated at Home’ straight after the Palace game. For the WFA. But it was almost mocking us fans after that performance. Whoever does the comms and mail outs is a prat really.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Very much this. That evening the Albion website also had ‘Remain Undefeated at Home’ straight after the Palace game. For the WFA. But it was almost mocking us fans after that performance. Whoever does the comms and mail outs is a prat really.
I'd agree with that. I got the email telling me off for not listing my ticket for the Southampton game. I replied saying there were over 1000 tickets still available, so listing mine would be a waste of time.
The wording of the email is certainly not diplomatic and very patronising.
 


hart's shirt

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Jul 8, 2003
11,161
Kitbag in Dubai
Maybe Barber needs to introduce a new ‘surging’ section on away tickets
No doubt we could expect to pay a premium for this.

"Fancy a matchday experience that gets you on your feet and keeps you on your toes? Splurge for the surge."

Perhaps 1901 members could subsidise other fans to surge for them?

And corporates could have the chance for match, kit or ball sponsurgeship packages.
 




Man of Harveys

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Jul 9, 2003
18,931
Brighton, UK
I said it after Fulham: in ye olden days there was effectively segregation between the different types of away fans, some who wanted to jump around on each other after too much nosebeer and some who didn’t: you generally had away seating as well as standing and even in the latter you could choose whom you stood next to. Now everyone is thrown in together and it’s just become a bit of a mess.

The answer is to introduce options again where possible, starting with standing or sitting.
 




Skuller

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Jun 3, 2017
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in which sense do you mean? I would expect people near aisle seats to still be going down when there is a big goal
Oh come on! There’s “celebrating” and there’s “celebrating”! This sort of behaviour will just reinforce prejudices against our supporters.
 




Skuller

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Jun 3, 2017
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I’m a bit new to away games, only getting into it for the past couple of seasons. I go to about five games per season. I’ve never had beer thrown over me or not been able to sit where I should, and I was at the Leicester game but saw nothing. The trouble is I’m now terrified of being hurled down five rows of seats (which, at my age, could do serious damage) while warm Koppaberg is liberally poured over me by some hairy-arsed yob who wants to stand in my seat.
 






Gazwag

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Mar 4, 2004
30,810
Bexhill-on-Sea
I have been in our away end loads of time where we have had a last minute winner with 'limbs' and there hasn't been a surge.

Most normal people jump up and down, celebrate with those around them.

I have also been in a way end where someone from a few rows back comes flying into the person next to me and the person behind me pushes my Dad over.

If you can't celebrate a goal without surging I am not sure what's wrong with you.
I don't think anybody is really suggesting a surge means leaping from seat to seat forwards and ending up in a heap 10 rows forward. A surge in seated stadium away end is more to do with people leaning forward as play goes on towards the goal and as the ball hits the net you can be unbalanced so you may end up scraping your shins up the seat in front and nudging the person in from of you, or being nudged from behind into the person in front. My main memory of a modern day "surge" was Forest away and the Ulloa goal, everybody had bruised shins from that goal. I have on time had somebody from the row behind end up in my row on the floor.

The problem is some fans are not bright enough or socially astute enough to treat people around them with respect, back in the 80's you always felt that traveling to games around the country Brighton fans looked out for one another irrespective of who they were both in grounds and travelling to the games and home again afterwards. Nowadays this doesn't happen much IMO, fans might look after there mates they travel with but anybody else doesn't matter.
 






Gazwag

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Mar 4, 2004
30,810
Bexhill-on-Sea
Very much this. That evening the Albion website also had ‘Remain Undefeated at Home’ straight after the Palace game. For the WFA. But it was almost mocking us fans after that performance. Whoever does the comms and mail outs is a prat really.
Its probably because the people are not Brighton fans they are just Brighton employees. Pretty much all of the away ticketing issues for example could be sorted out if a regular away fan was in charge rather than people who are just in charge of selling tickets. For example, last week when Norwich opened for all STH's and there were a few hundred left, I think everybody on here or a away traveller would have said "let open those in the middle of that block for sale in the 20 minute blackout so there is the full choice at 9am" instead of at 920 "oh look there are hardly any seats left and fans are now buying the shitty off the pitch restricted view seats as there are none left anywhere expect for the 300 odd seats in the middle we haven't released yet, better press the button then.
 


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