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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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I was always pissed off that was allowed to pass. Should have been full sanctions then.
Ukraine should bomb the tankers. Not ideal for the environment, but I'd say that this war isn't particularly good for the environment.
It would certainly highlight the issue
fly high
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Going down.
You sure? Is it not moored?
newhaven seagull 85
SELDOM IN NEWHAVEN
- Dec 3, 2006
- 968
I have been looking in on a daily basis and the main contributors to this thread, have been keeping informed better than the MSM, no real need to join in on this as there are members who have a connection to the war in Ukraine, through friends and relatives, and are better informed.
Whilst wishing the worst for the regime in Moscow and its associated supporters, unfortunately the only change has to come from within, this will only occur when someone with Balls high up in the political or military elite, actually allows the Journalists in Russia to tell the truth about what is happening on the doorstep. This is the only way the people will rebel, when they know it is safe to do so.
Allowing Russia to implode on itself, would not be safe for the world as a whole, you would not want nuclear weapons to fall into the wrong hands.
Threats from Russia are solely for the Russian people and its media, but on a daily basis the West and Russia still speak directly to confirm that neither has any intention of using the deterrent.
- Oct 17, 2008
- 15,051
Further verified videos now exist on X, showing the bodies and the explosion from a few different angles, if that’s your thing.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,477
An interesting post. I'm sorry you don't feel a need to join in, but that is your prerogative. None of us on here would claim to have a better knowledge than the MSM , or anyone else. But we are aware of the limitations of the MSM. For instance, there are pros (fact based reporting) vs. cons (time taken) with BBC Verify. With fast moving news stories, it has less value, except when reporting on events through the rear view mirror. That said, the Sky News digest is consistently good.
I broadly agree that real, lasting change must come from the Russian people, but the catalyst may be Russian failure. Note that there have been changes that have occurred due to Ukrainian resistance, sanctions, propaganda successes and failures, and good/bad decision making, all of which have altered the course of the war.
I don't think the west has the ability to prevent a Russian implosion, if it were to happen. Russian imperialism left unchallenged is not safe for the world as a whole either.
Threats from Russia may or may not be solely for the Russian people. But I wouldn't dismiss them. They can provide scarce illumination on Kremlin thinking, when the Kremlin is invariably behaving like a black box. Obviously you need to employ suitable filters. Finally, Admiral Sir Tony Radakin, Chief of the Defence Staff discussed his back channel routine with his Russian equivalent, to ensure there are no misunderstandings, in a Chatham House speech. I understand the Americans have a similar arrangement.
Yes, that or bomb their loading ports in the Baltic.
We need more of those!
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,477
Medvedev's reaction to the operation, confirms that Ukraine definitely hit the bullseye.
Medvedev calls for retaliation after assassination of Russia’s nuclear troops general
Russia’s Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev has threatened Ukraine’s leadership with “retaliation” following the assassination of Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov, the head of the Radiation, Chemical and Biological Protection Troops of the Russian Armed Forces, in Moscow.
www.pravda.com.ua
Medvedev's reaction to the operation, confirms that Ukraine definitely hit the bullseye.
Medvedev calls for retaliation after assassination of Russia’s nuclear troops general
Russia’s Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev has threatened Ukraine’s leadership with “retaliation” following the assassination of Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov, the head of the Radiation, Chemical and Biological Protection Troops of the Russian Armed Forces, in Moscow.
How will they retaliate, are they going to invade again?
Sirnormangall
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- Sep 21, 2017
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Most likely it seems that Ukrainians (Russia based or special ops) carried out this assassination and other sabotage attacks that we’ve seen over the past couple of years. But I also saw speculation today (can’t remember which news channel) that the killing might also have been the work of disaffected Russians - an interesting development if true.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,477
I read on here that Ukraine has already claimed responsibility. It makes sense to take the war right into Moscow - stir things up a bit, weaken Putin and achieve direct, final retribution.
I can't see that. It was a very professional hit, right after he'd been found guilty in Ukraine, and Ukraine claimed it shortly afterwards. Those things wouldn't have happened if it wasn't Ukraine.
- Aug 24, 2020
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A new red line, this time a dark crimson, has been implemented. Any more elimination of senior military staff will result in all Christmas leave cancelled for troops at Russian nuclear bases. But with no extra pay.