fly high
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The thing which confuses me is even after courts have exonerated SPMs he is insisting there was nothing wrong with Horizon? Is he saying that he believes they are guilty?
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I think he's saying that it was mainly fine, and almost all of the time it worked perfectly. That is - 'robust' in IT terms, as there are bugs in everything.
Of course, on the occasions when it did go wrong - the above attitude prevented the proper investigation of the SPM's claims that it could cause glitches.
slimes
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Post Office inquiry live: Ex-Fujitsu engineer Gareth Jenkins gives third day of evidence
Gareth Jenkins helped design the faulty Horizon software at the heart of the Post Office scandal.
www.bbc.co.uk
Prison is too good for Graham Ward and Gareth Jenkins... they need to be Sectioned! ( there is clearly something wrong with them )
Milano
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I think there are a lot of ex-PO and Fujitsu senior staff who are shitting it. So he is doubling down on his position (deny, deny, deny) as the alternative is a potential criminal prosecution. I don't want middle level scapegoats, I want the likes of Vennells in the dock and looking at time.
Not only the business requirements but also (more importantly?) the benefit of said requirement to the business.
The former is too robotic without the latter.
Beyond the gently spoken, now old man, Jenkins comes across as devious and arrogant. Playing god with what legal proceedings and enquires should know.
Iggle Piggle
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Working in tech, I've worked with a lot of people like GJ over the years.Technically brilliantly but has no interest or understanding in people, commercial, timescales or anything other than his area of interest which is code and maths (he opened up with "Maths at Cambridge").
He just said that some of the witness statements signed by him weren't actually signed by him. He also said he had no curiosity in the court process when he was part of it. I'd imagine he slept soundly at night as he has absolutely no real concept or curiosity of the world outside of his area of interest.
He just said that some of the witness statements signed by him weren't actually signed by him. He also said he had no curiosity in the court process when he was part of it. I'd imagine he slept soundly at night as he has absolutely no real concept or curiosity of the world outside of his area of interest.
If true, solicitors perverting the course of justice?
Worried Man Blues
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It's just advice he should have said no it's not right.
Mackenzie
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It’s a cover up.
No surprise, London law firms and chambers made yet another killing.
A mex eyecan
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poor old lawyers ..
Sirnormangall
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Almost deserving of its own public enquiry!
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ITV1 follow up doc, just started. A what happened next following the dramaticsiation.
- Aug 24, 2020
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I'm just watching this now.
Incredibly, it seems that there was a system before Horizon, called Capture, and sub postmasters were prosecuted for errors in this system as well....
I thank ITV for this reminder. Further lies eg the Northern Ireland investigators tape was supposed to be long gone, then found.
A reminder that Vennells and other key people destroyed lives, covered it up, are a disgrace. There has to be criminal trials. They should have their PO pensions stopped.
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The ITV programme said that the government had appointed an investigator into the Capture system (that pre-dated Horizon), and that a report was due soon.
BadFish
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I have watched the 2nd episode of this and feel furiously angry about the whole thing.
I haven't read this thread so apologies if this point has been made but for me this scandal highlights many systemic failings.
For me the subcontracting culture of companies should be called into question. This is the mechanism by which the post-office could isolate and gaslight the postmasters and mistresses. They also used this system to control the narrative and information around this. Its shit and needs to be reviews IHMO like.
Don't ever get me started on the flaws for the justice system. The amount of money spent of lawyer, not given to the victims is another scandal in itself.
Are they still fighting these compensation claims?
I haven't read this thread so apologies if this point has been made but for me this scandal highlights many systemic failings.
For me the subcontracting culture of companies should be called into question. This is the mechanism by which the post-office could isolate and gaslight the postmasters and mistresses. They also used this system to control the narrative and information around this. Its shit and needs to be reviews IHMO like.
Don't ever get me started on the flaws for the justice system. The amount of money spent of lawyer, not given to the victims is another scandal in itself.
Are they still fighting these compensation claims?
Some/too many of them...yes...still waiting for fair payment as far as I understand