[Albion] Managers singling out players for criticism

PILTDOWN MAN · Dec 13, 2024

Bozza said:
"He wasn’t playing at anywhere near the level he should be. Timo's first-half performance was not acceptable to me. I told Timo that he's a German international, that I need everyone to be trying to give their best and this wasn’t an acceptable example. I expect a lot more from the senior guys."

Tottenham forward slammed for underperformance - by his own manager

Timo Werner's second loan spell at Tottenham is not going according to plan, with his latest performance drawing the ire of manager Ange Postecoglou.

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Can you recall an Albion manager singling a player out like this?

Should Albion managers do this?

I think I prefer this stuff to be handled out of the public eye.

Mullery certainly did it often. Especially calling Moseley out, nearly ruining his career.

Rdodge30 · Dec 13, 2024

It’s not likely to make a player want to improve for you is it, when the manager does a tv interview and just rags you out? Quite often it gets said with the caveat that the player agrees and I always think that’s a dodgy move for managing players… well he hasn’t played to the level that we expect and he’ll be the first to tell you that he can do better.

Best kept to the dressing room and managers office

jcdenton08 · Dec 13, 2024

It’s generally not a good idea. In cases like Werner’s it must’ve been very apparent to those watching that he was having a shocking game, and his half time withdrawal reinforcing that, so speaking to the media is superfluous. If asked a simple “it wasn’t working tonight, so I made a change to benefit the team” would’ve sufficed.

Conversations like that should have in the dressing room or before and after training afterwards, not via the press.

Strikes me as a man under pressure and making emotional mistakes.

Greg Bobkin · Dec 13, 2024

Guinness Boy said:
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The scary thing is that people will think that is real!

US Seagull · Dec 13, 2024

There are certainly some players who will react to that by knuckling down and being determined to prove the manager wrong.

But I suspect the majority would not take that kind of public dressing down well at all. They'd down tools and be looking to GTFO of that toxicity.

Where does Timo fall? No idea. Presumably Ange believes this kick in the ass will motivate him. He may be right. Or he might be wrong. It's certainly a risky move.

Coldeanseagull · Dec 13, 2024

A cheeky January bid might be in order

pigmanovich · Dec 13, 2024

Guinness Boy said:
Keep that stuff internal and take some responsibility yourself. You picked and trained him.

Indeed, he picked him twice :facepalm:

pigmanovich · Dec 13, 2024

Coldeanseagull said:
A cheeky January bid might be in order

He’s on loan

The red pepper kid · Dec 13, 2024

Greg Bobkin said:
RDZ on Baleba, maybe? I think he had a 'pop' at someone else, although maybe it wasn't as blatant...

Well at Stoke away in the cup -Pedro got called over for some diggins/encouragement and it worked , Baleba was subbed and RDZ didnt even look at him .........we went on to win that .........pedro scored of course

amexer · Dec 13, 2024

Most walks of life Praise in public and criticise in private.
I am sure players as well as manager would have told Minteh what they thought of not making the pass that could have put us 3 up against Leicester

AmexRuislip · Dec 13, 2024

Bozza said:
"He wasn’t playing at anywhere near the level he should be. Timo's first-half performance was not acceptable to me. I told Timo that he's a German international, that I need everyone to be trying to give their best and this wasn’t an acceptable example. I expect a lot more from the senior guys."

Tottenham forward slammed for underperformance - by his own manager

Timo Werner's second loan spell at Tottenham is not going according to plan, with his latest performance drawing the ire of manager Ange Postecoglou.

www.90min.com

Can you recall an Albion manager singling a player out like this?

Should Albion managers do this?

I think I prefer this stuff to be handled out of the public eye.

The only recollection I have, but is of Graham Potter calling Júrgen Locadia out at an Albion Christmas party.
As I recall, Potter had requested Breathe Again by Tony Braxton, to which Locadia told him to **** off.

Nobby Cybergoat · Dec 13, 2024

pigmanovich said:
He’s on loan

is just one of the reasons why a cheeky January bid might not be in order

Nobby Cybergoat · Dec 13, 2024

I reckon a manager calling a player out publicly is OK, if, and only if. The players attitude stinks, you've given him the feedback, he's not listened, he's playing crap, but you sort of have to play him because of injury crisis.

If these are the facts, and I clearly don't know that they are, then go on Ange, hang the fella out to dry.

But I can't escape the idea that he should just drop him if he's that bad and develop one of the teenagers they've been spending big money on

Gabbiano · Dec 13, 2024

RDZ made some pointed comments publicly about Baleba, Fati and especially Sanchez.

One of the things that I really disliked about him, he was always ready to talk shit to the press.

Sarisbury Seagull · Dec 13, 2024

I don’t agree with it but Werner was absolutely abysmal last night so I can see why a manager who’s on the edge already and totally out of his depth anyway would lose his rag and resort to that. Mate.

Weststander · Dec 13, 2024

Commander said:
With respect, that is complete nonsense. I thought we were excellent on Sunday, and made one individual error that cost us the win. You can't seriously suggest that you think the players didn't TRY hard enough?

Watch the non existent marking for Leicester's opener.

Lamptey and Minteh gave up.

AZ Gull · Dec 13, 2024

Gabbiano said:
RDZ made some pointed comments publicly about Baleba, Fati and especially Sanchez.

One of the things that I really disliked about him, he was always ready to talk shit to the press.

...and Ferguson.

pigmanovich · Dec 13, 2024

Nobby Cybergoat said:
I reckon a manager calling a player out publicly is OK, if, and only if. The players attitude stinks, you've given him the feedback, he's not listened, he's playing crap, but you sort of have to play him because of injury crisis.

If these are the facts, and I clearly don't know that they are, then go on Ange, hang the fella out to dry.

But I can't escape the idea that he should just drop him if he's that bad and develop one of the teenagers they've been spending big money on

In the LW position, that would be Wilson Odobert, a summer signing who turned 20 last month (and scored against us for Burnley last season), but he's out indefinitely with a hamstring injury. (Which reminds me Tottenham have been linked with Adingra!)

The other young big money signings are Archie Gray and Lucas Bergvall and they've been getting a lot of minutes in Europe, less so in the PL - then again Tottenham's depth in their positions hasn't been hit as badly by injuries.

Rdodge30 · Dec 13, 2024

AZ Gull said:
...and Ferguson.

Even after he scored against Stoke !!

Greg Bobkin · Dec 13, 2024

AmexRuislip said:
The only recollection I have, but is of Graham Potter calling Júrgen Locadia out at an Albion Christmas party.
As I recall, Potter had requested Breathe Again by Tony Braxton, to which Locadia told him to **** off.

After that, there was no way that Big Jurg could Unbreak his Heart...

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