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BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Could you describe how a working environment in say HR at HMRC is different to HR at Shell ?
That is not what the stats you posted compare though. Which is exactly my point, your stat's are too broad to draw any real conclusion because there are too many factors affecting them.
 




Rdodge30

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Dec 30, 2022
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Distrustful boss and staff running a chaotically resourced department. I think I’d be calling in sick more often than not if I had to work at this place. In fact I’d have quit long before you’d have enough time to come up with a hilarious handle for me.
It was an extremely difficult environment for some because
1 you were expected to turn up for work
2 you were expected to work when you were there
 






Chicken Run

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In my nearly 40 years of working for both private sector, public sector and now self employed I’ve learnt that those that dislike ‘sick note’ types have regularly had to pick up the slack as a result, and those that don’t like those who criticise ’sick notes’ probably have had more than their fair share of shall we say, un planned leave over the years 😂
 




Herr Tubthumper

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It was an extremely difficult environment for some because
1 you were expected to turn up for work
2 you were expected to work when you were there
What a crazy idea.
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Ed Milliband (Energy Secretary) just interviewed by Naga on BBC Breakfast.
Faced questions relating to wind and solar energy and his part in approving schemes when there might be local protests. He mostly pushed the UK's energy security and becoming less dependant on oil and gas states.
Later he was also questioned about his decision not to attack Syria on a previous occasion given what we know about the Assad regime now.
I thought he faced the questions head on and gave honest answers (whether you agree with his opinion or not)
Unlike, for instance, SKS and RR, he's a good communicator. Was also impressed with Matthew Pennycock yesterday when announcing the homebuilding programme. Streeting is good and I also like Jess Phillips and Angela Rayner (both of whom will provoke ire in the ageing male demographic on here), but they haven't got too many great storytellers.
 


Machiavelli

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In my nearly 40 years of working for both private sector, public sector and now self employed I’ve learnt that those that dislike ‘sick note’ types have regularly had to pick up the slack as a result, and those that don’t like those who criticise ’sick notes’ probably have had more than their fair share of shall we say, un planned leave over the years 😂
In my 35 years of working, I can count the number of days leave on a hand, and can also recognise that this is in part luck and that there are colleagues that aren't as fortunate as I am.
 




Thunder Bolt

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In my nearly 40 years of working for both private sector, public sector and now self employed I’ve learnt that those that dislike ‘sick note’ types have regularly had to pick up the slack as a result, and those that don’t like those who criticise ’sick notes’ probably have had more than their fair share of shall we say, un planned leave over the years 😂
The problem is that one size doesn’t fit all. I did find, in the public sector, if an employee had underlying health conditions such as severe asthma, SJogrens Syndrome, Hashimoto’s disease, then allowances were made. Colleagues aren’t always aware of their fellow worker’s health, rightly so, because it’s confidential.

I know of several incidents of bullying by managers where a union would’ve got involved.
 
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Is it PotG?

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Feb 20, 2017
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Unlike, for instance, SKS and RR, he's a good communicator. Was also impressed with Matthew Pennycock yesterday when announcing the homebuilding programme. Streeting is good and I also like Jess Phillips and Angela Rayner (both of whom will provoke ire in the ageing male demographic on here), but they haven't got too many great storytellers.
That's the issue I think long term. This lot all say the right things in a robust, clear way. Sound bites ahoy...but at the end of the day it's about delivering. That's a whole new ball game.

UK economy shrinks for second month in a row
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
In my 35 years of working, I can count the number of days leave on a hand, and can also recognise that this is in part luck and that there are colleagues that aren't as fortunate as I am.
One boss at the electricity company where I worked boasted he’d never had one day off in over 10 years. Two weeks later, he was crippled with severe sciatica, and off work for a month.
 








Machiavelli

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That's the issue I think long term. This lot all say the right things in a robust, clear way. Sound bites ahoy...but at the end of the day it's about delivering. That's a whole new ball game.

UK economy shrinks for second month in a row
I don't think it's just about delivering. The US economy, for instance, was pretty good under Biden, but they didn't manage to narrate that to the public, and Trump pointed to the impact of inflation which stuck. On the other side, for 14 years the Tories failed to deliver on just about everything they promised (beyond austerity and a sh!te Brexit) but they still managed to spin a yarn that convinced the electorate to keep them in power. But, as they found out, you can only get away with that for so long.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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It was an extremely difficult environment for some because
1 you were expected to turn up for work
2 you were expected to work when you were there
It's the names I'd baulk at.....I do not want to go through my working day being called something like Handsome Herr or Terribly funny Tubthumper.
 


papachris

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Unlike, for instance, SKS and RR, he's a good communicator. Was also impressed with Matthew Pennycock yesterday when announcing the homebuilding programme. Streeting is good and I also like Jess Phillips and Angela Rayner (both of whom will provoke ire in the ageing male demographic on here), but they haven't got too many great storytellers.
I am an aging male but I also like the people you mentioned. Wes Streeting another one that comes across well.
Whichever political party they belong to I much prefer politicians to say this is what we need to do and why.
Over the last few years there were far too many who when questioned, would answer with something totally unconnected with the question. Boris Johnson probably has a degree in this!
 


Guinness Boy

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😆 these are stories of staff I worked alongside BEFORE I had my own business… and they were some of the laziest workers I’ve ever worked with !! Didn’t want to do anything when they were there and called in sick whenever it was busy😆

I’m sure we’ve all worked with them ??? Only difference is with my job as soon as someone calls in sick it means everyone else has to work longer because of it because it’s not a job where you just stop what you’re doing and go home at the six oclock whistle
And what do you do when they're on annual leave or a training course or apply for a job in another part of the business? Doesn't seem very optimal that you ran so thin to the line that one absence broke the shift for everyone. Sure, it makes your costs bottom line look good in the short term but medium to long there's absolutely no room for growth, innovation or time off for tired employees. Probably why they went on the sick.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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And what do you do when they're on annual leave or a training course or apply for a job in another part of the business? Doesn't seem very optimal that you ran so thin to the line that one absence broke the shift for everyone. Sure, it makes your costs bottom line look good in the short term but medium to long there's absolutely no room for growth, innovation or time off for tired employees. Probably why they went on the sick.
And all that bitching about “slacker” colleagues must take time as well.
 


Rdodge30

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Dec 30, 2022
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It's the names I'd baulk at.....I do not want to go through my working day being called something like Handsome Herr or Terribly funny Tubthumper.
We had 3 Johns there at the time .. John the driver, John the packer and bullshit John … guess which one was a c*** ?? 😆
 


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