[Albion] Evan Ferguson

Super Sub · Dec 10, 2024

I feel for the lad. He's a natural goal scorer in my mind and someone like a Lineker, Fowler, Shearer. He isn't someone who will make too many of his own goals atm and certainly isn't about to go on a run past 3 players to break the net.
He doesn't fit the way we play as we speak but he is NOT someone I would want rid of either. I still think he will go on to be a superstar... I hope it will be with us.

PILTDOWN MAN · Dec 10, 2024

Zeberdi said:
Any fair terms can be included/negotiated into a contract if both parties agree.

It‘s called negotiation…

No it’s NOT allowed

Zeberdi · Dec 10, 2024

Marty McFly said:
6.6.3 of the FA Standardised Rules: Long Term loans can only be terminated within a transfer window (paraphrased)

define ‘long term’

The way round it might be short term loans (4-6 weeks) then assessing our injury situation before agreeing to another short term loan. I don’t think there is any limit to how often you can loan a player to the same club?

I’m not saying we could negotiate something like that, just that a loan without any option like that for the entire rest of the season, would be a risk if both Welbeck and Pedro are injured.

That said, I stick by what I said on Sunday, West Ham might be a very good option now a space has opened up at the front because of Antonio’s injury.

PILTDOWN MAN · Dec 10, 2024

Zeberdi said:
define ‘long term’

The way round it might be short term loans (4-6 weeks) then assessing our injury situation before agreeing to another short term loan. I don’t think there is any limit to how often you can loan a player to the same club?

I’m not saying we could negotiate something like that, just that a loan without any option like that for the entire rest of the season, would be a risk if both Welbeck and Pedro are injured.

Not allowed short term loans

Zeberdi · Dec 10, 2024

PILTDOWN MAN said:
Not allowed short term loans

Whatever.

What do you think of my suggestion for West Ham?

That was the point of my recent posts.

bhafc99 · Dec 10, 2024

Zeberdi said:
We currently have an investment development player that if he were on form could get £90+ on the transfer market. Currently we’d be lucky to get half that.

Ouch. I mean, yes, he’s had a dip in form and confidence for sure, but fifty quid is insulting.

PILTDOWN MAN · Dec 10, 2024

Zeberdi said:
Whatever.

What do you think of my suggestion for West Ham?

That was the point of my recent posts.

You appear upset with my responses, only giving the facts in a concise one sentence reply.

Zeberdi · Dec 10, 2024

bhafc99 said:
Ouch. I mean, yes, he’s had a dip in form and confidence for sure, but fifty quid is insulting.

Obviously a typo.

What about a loan to WHU (or any other EPL team) (in the absence of any ability to call him back?)

Do people think that would help?

Zeberdi · Dec 10, 2024

PILTDOWN MAN said:
You appear upset with my responses, only giving the facts in a concise one sentence reply.

No, just asking what your reaction is to the idea of him going to WHU in January?

No idea why you think I am upset

WHU seem very keen according to the rumour sauces

Exclusive: West Ham accelerate Evan Ferguson deal after his reveal

West Ham are plotting a move to sign Brighton star Evan Ferguson on loan in the January transfer window after a new twist.

www.footballinsider247.com

West Ham United set to step up interest in Evan Ferguson

West Ham United are all set to intensify their efforts to strike a deal for Brighton forward Evan Ferguson in January.

thehardtackle.com

PILTDOWN MAN · Dec 10, 2024

Zeberdi said:
No, just asking what your reaction is to the idea of him going to WHU in January?

No idea why you think I am upset

Not sure. He is a static shadow of his former self. Why is that? Not a clue. He really lacks effort. That's not down to confidence, that's what's going on in his head. He is never going to score if he doesn't move, and he doesn't. He no longer tackles, chases down. He doesn't bully defenders like he did, he is a shell of the player that bounced onto the scene. If everyone who watches him live can see it from the stands, it makes you wonder what the likes of Murray/Zamora are seeing and saying to him.

If he is moved out on loan and it goes badly then what? No one is on his back at the Amex, at the Tax Payer's Stadium it can be toxic.

Professor Plum · Dec 10, 2024

Rdodge30 said:
I do not want to see him playing for another premier league club this season … West Ham or anyone else. Bad enough the number of points Buanonotte has won for Leicester.

Celtic sounds the best option so far

Celtic would be a fantastic move given their Irish heritage and support. He’d get a hero’s welcome and would be able to bang in plenty of goals against the sides they come up against. May even pick up some silverware. What a confidence boost that would be.

Zeberdi · Dec 10, 2024

PILTDOWN MAN said:
If he is moved out on loan and it goes badly then what? No one is on his back at the Amex, at the Tax Payer's Stadium it can be toxic.

Good point.

It’s a conundrum- young player, 20 yrs old, still developing and having what appears to be a significant wobble in his career.

What would be the less of two evils - a failed loan or risk not climbing out of what ever doldrums he seems to be stuck in at Brighton? Either would probably result in him being sold in the summer, which long term I think could be our loss.

Justice · Dec 10, 2024

PILTDOWN MAN said:
Not sure. He is a static shadow of his former self. Why is that? Not a clue. He really lacks effort. That's not down to confidence, that's what's going on in his head. He is never going to score if he doesn't move, and he doesn't. He no longer tackles, chases down. He doesn't bully defenders like he did, he is a shell of the player that bounced onto the scene. If everyone who watches him live can see it from the stands, it makes you wonder what the likes of Murray/Zamora are seeing and saying to him.

If he is moved out on loan and it goes badly then what? No one is on his back at the Amex, at the Tax Payer's Stadium it can be toxic.

Zamora is spending extra time with the lad after training trying to help with his confidence. We need to give him time. Didn’t he have a lung infection or something?

PILTDOWN MAN · Dec 10, 2024

Justice said:
Zamora is spending extra time with the lad after training trying to help with his confidence. We need to give him time. Didn’t he have a lung infection or something?

Never confirmed or even surmised apart from on here.

As I posted Brighton fans have been giving him time (he's not being booed or any such thing) if he went away his exposure to less tolerant fans won't help.

pigmanovich · Dec 10, 2024

PILTDOWN MAN said:
Never confirmed or even surmised apart from on here.

As I posted Brighton fans have been giving him time (he's not being booed or any such thing) if he went away his exposure to less tolerant fans won't help.

Indeed - I was heartened to hear his chant sung on Sunday even if it was just the once.

GT49er · Dec 10, 2024

Professor Plum said:
Celtic would be a fantastic move given their Irish heritage and support. He’d get a hero’s welcome and would be able to bang in plenty of goals against the sides they come up against. May even pick up some silverware. What a confidence boost that would be.

What, like Duffy did?

Flounce · Dec 10, 2024

I have no idea what his problem is but there is no excuse for looking lazy, mardy and disinterested, which he has done every time I’ve seen him this season, one excellent goal aside.

BluesRockDJ · Dec 10, 2024

Super Sub said:
I feel for the lad. He's a natural goal scorer in my mind and someone like a Lineker, Fowler, Shearer. He isn't someone who will make too many of his own goals atm and certainly isn't about to go on a run past 3 players to break the net.
He doesn't fit the way we play as we speak but he is NOT someone I would want rid of either. I still think he will go on to be a superstar... I hope it will be with us.

How do you define a "natural goal scorer ?"

Han Solo · Dec 10, 2024

Professor Plum said:
Celtic would be a fantastic move given their Irish heritage and support. He’d get a hero’s welcome and would be able to bang in plenty of goals against the sides they come up against. May even pick up some silverware. What a confidence boost that would be.

No way would he get some hero's welcome. They have five strikers or something, score goals for fun and most likely have 0% interest in putting their own players on the bench or in the stands just to develop some 20-year-old Brighton player that they will never be able to afford buying if he is indeed a success.

There's very little in it for them. They aren't struggling, aren't lacking in numbers, won't be able to sign the player permanently. I have no doubt his quality would give him a bunch of goals in Scotland, but I just don't think Cetic are willing to run our errands when they don't need to.

pigmanovich · Dec 10, 2024

Han Solo said:
No way would he get some hero's welcome. They have five strikers or something, score goals for fun and most likely have 0% interest in putting their own players on the bench or in the stands just to develop some 20-year-old Brighton player that they will never be able to afford buying if he is indeed a success.

There's very little in it for them. They aren't struggling, aren't lacking in numbers, won't be able to sign the player permanently. I have no doubt his quality would give him a bunch of goals in Scotland, but I just don't think Cetic are willing to run our errands when they don't need to.

The obvious Scottish loan club given recent developments is Hearts... But Evan might as well go out on loan to a Championship side in that case.

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