West Ham now reported as interested in him. It's only Football Insider, and it's a pretty fair chance that it's speculation fuelled by Antonio's enforced absence - but a loan there mightn't be a bad idea.
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[Albion] Evan Ferguson
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mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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Fullkrug clearly isn't favoured/having issues. Feels like he will be off for whatever reason.
Antonio is obviously out
They are starting with no striker and bringing Ings on.
Sure, it might just be someone putting 2 and 2 together but, as a fit, it could be a BRILLIANT one. West Ham aren't bad. They get a LOT of shots away. They put in LOADS of crosses.
Loads of crosses are one thing whether he bothers to attempt to get on the end of them is another. The signs aren't good.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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I don't think it's about bothers. He's just playing too deep to get there.
Whether, it's him or the coaching team, I reckon there's some effort about modelling him as a "Kane, starts deep arrives late sort of striker". Well OK, but it takes most of Kane's phenomenal experience to get this right and often he doesn't.
The first step for Evan in my view is for him to be a Muzza type striker. Occupy a defender and try and get a few flicks off to Mitoma and Adingra, then get in there
The most telling passage of play by Evan this season was when Iwobi turned him for Fulham's third. Why? Why is Evan defending there at 2-1 down? He's clearly no good at it. We need a goal. His development has stalled clearly. But we're not using him right
Could be - my only worry is that being a mid-table PL club's main striker might be a year or so too soon for him. So, would his development be better served (and his confidence more likely be restored) if he went on loan to a Championship - or even a League 1 - club for half a season to start banging in lots of goals again?
Milano
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Keep him at the club and as well as him being in the match day 20 also give him minutes in the U21s. I don't understand why we don't use the U21s more for some of our young players.
He doesn't need to experience playing in front of a crowd anymore, he needs to get the feeling back of regularly hitting the target in a competitive game.
Do NOT loan him to a f***ing rival for Europe, that would be madness IMO. Let West Ham suffer.
He doesn't need to experience playing in front of a crowd anymore, he needs to get the feeling back of regularly hitting the target in a competitive game.
Do NOT loan him to a f***ing rival for Europe, that would be madness IMO. Let West Ham suffer.
schmunk
Why oh why oh why?
He's been injured for almost all of the season so far. Achilles injury playing for Germany in September.
nicko31
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Loan him to a promotion chaser in the Championship, someone like Sunderland
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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- Oct 4, 2003
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I don’t think a loan move to the Championship or League One does anything for his development. Sure banging in lots of goals will boost his confidence but will do nothing to get him back into his groove as a Premier League striker.
He needs to be playing against Premier League defenders, working on his movement, his anticipation, his willingness to get physical with defenders. All of those are an entirely different thing in the PL compared to The Championship and below. He knows how to do these things he just needs to work on implementing them properly on the pitch.
If he goes to the Championship and scores loads that’s great but he’ll come back and if things don’t go right immediately and he has another barren spell it will have been for nothing. I’d rather he stayed here if we can’t send him to another PL club on loan even if his game time is somewhat limited he’ll learn way more playing through some adverse times in the PL than he would scoring for fun in a lower league.
Milano
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No. Because you just know what will happen - Welbeck and/or Pedro will get injured. What are we going to do, loan IN cover for those two? We already have cover - Evan Ferguson. Let him bang goals in for the U21s in between some involvement in EPL and start in FAC. What is playing in the Championship going to achieve?
This is Brighton and Hove Albion, not Evan Ferguson Albion.
It's opinions, innit? Wonder what will actually happen in January!
- Oct 20, 2022
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As I said several days ago - a move to a Club like WHU could be an excellent option for Evan to finish out the season. It obviously could help out WHU with Antonio out for the foreseeable - however it really depends on why Evan’s off form and whether either Club thinks he will suddenly find it out on loan to another EPL Club. I think Leicester showed that when Evan does have the minutes, the issues, whatever they are, are not just having to compete with Pedro and Welbeck for starts.
EDIT And a very good point that’s been raised above - if Welbeck and or Pedro get injured, do we want to be left without a back up no9 ?
Any loan would have to have an immediate call back option, something I would be surprised WHU or any other EPL team would agree to.
Insel affe
HellBilly
agreed
urghhh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
he does not need that sectarian bullshite in his life
No such thing as a call back
- Oct 20, 2022
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You have a point but look at the long term picture.
We currently have an investment development player that if he were on form could get £90+ on the transfer market. Currently we’d be lucky to get half that.
If Evan can get back up to his peak performances of early 2023/4 by spending 6 months at another PL club without an option to buy , it doesn’t bother me - provided we get some kind of option to call him back early in exceptional circumstances.
From a business perspective - it is not making good financial sense for us to have our young ‘star striker’ struggling to find match time because his performance is not at the level it needs to be.
Leicester may have benefitted from Facu this season but Facu wasn’t going to get the starts he needed to develop further at Brighton. When his loan is up, we have a confident, goal scoring CAM who will have no trouble IMO in finding his way back into the team - and that has added at least another £10-20m onto his pre-loan value.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Any fair terms can be included/negotiated into a contract if both parties agree.
It‘s called negotiation…
Plus they’re right next to Westfield which has lots of shops in which to sell the #FreeEvanFerguson tea towels come April / May
Milano
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It's called player registration..... He could come back to Brighton, but he couldn't play for us again until next season.
Marty McFly
Seagulls Over Canada
6.6.3 of the FA Standardised Rules / V7 Premier League Handbook: Long Term loans can only be terminated within a transfer window (paraphrased)
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