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[TV] Greg Wallace
- Thread starter Beach Hut
- Start date
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,466
The women who have so far come forward, are the ones who rejected his advances, and who have had the courage to speak out, sometimes after many years.
Do you see the implications?
Wardy's twin
Well-known member
- Oct 21, 2014
- 8,948
Are you saying he shouldn't have a fair trial?
The Clamp
Well-known member
Flirting?
“If you’re not going to let me f*** you, will you lick my arsehole out”?
The same question to number 3..
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,466
No. I'm saying that people should be thinking about the victims first and foremost. Those who have come forward and potentially those who have yet to do so, and are agonising over it.
Discussions over a fair trial, should there be one, should come further down the list.
No I don't, enough people have responded and asked questions in context. That a few of you are incapable of/or can't be bothered understanding my response in the context of what I am responding to is hardly my fault. It would appear instead that you flick through the paragraph, don't bother to understand it, instead prefering to pick out trigger words to get all puffed up about.
Really a one sided fair trial, how does that work. Surely to be fair it must be so for both parties.
You see this is a major problem. If I am reading you correctly you are saying because there are so many complaints he must be guilty, and yes if you were to put a gun to my head and say decide one way or another or I shoot you, I will come down with a guilty verdict. But that is not how our legal system works and for very good reasons. Where do you draw the line 10 complaints, 5, 3,1. Innocent until found guilty is absolutely vital. And Woody is correct all this talk could give Wallace (if he is guilty) a way out by way of claiming a tainted jury. Your a b question should be A. B.C with c being I don't know. I haven't heard all of the evidence which must include his.
Wow arguing for the fundamental right of all people to a fair and unbiased trial is defending them!!! He is not campaigning, just pointing out how our legal system works and how it must work. This gives me an idea of just how far down the road of Guilty until judged innocent you have gone.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 18,434
Its that binary black and white thinking again. No-one on this thread has drawn the conclusion that he 'must be guilty', no-one.
He is still 'innocent until proven guilty' as you continually demand, people are just using the mounting evidence to speculate on where he will end up on the sex-pest-o-metre. All with come degree of nuance and grey areas, acknowledging that we don't have all the facts or any reply from the man himself.
I guess the logical black and white angle for this would be to not discuss it and wait until he has been through the courts before we offer an opnion or speculate. To be honest this would probably be the best outcome for everyone but it doesn't really take into account the way the world works.
Sure no one has used the word must, but they have come as close as you can without saying it. Even criticising someone for having the audacity to suggest all the media talk could prevent a fair trial.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,466
You asked where do you draw the line. In my
post you teplied to, I said 17. Tha current number of complaints. Where would you draw the line then? Clearly 17 isn't enough for you to countenance the likelihood of guilt.
In an earlier post you said Wallace should be reprimanded. For what? Being reprimanded means he is guilty. Since then, you've said he should be regarded as innocent until proven guilty. You are contradicting yourself.
Others have said you are confused. I have said that you go off on tangents. Why don't you press the reset button and lay out where you really stand on Gregg Wallace?
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
Well-known member
THAT'S how you flirt?
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
You have a very low opinion of women.
Cheeky Monkey
Well-known member
- Jul 17, 2003
- 23,965
Now the day bleeds
Into nightfall
And you're not here
To get me through it all
I let my guard down
And then you pulled the rug
I was getting kinda used to being someone you loved
And repeat to Fade
Now the day bleeds
Into nightfall
And you're not here
To get me through it all
I let my guard down
And then you pulled the rug
I was getting kinda used to being someone you loved....
Into nightfall
And you're not here
To get me through it all
I let my guard down
And then you pulled the rug
I was getting kinda used to being someone you loved
And repeat to Fade
Now the day bleeds
Into nightfall
And you're not here
To get me through it all
I let my guard down
And then you pulled the rug
I was getting kinda used to being someone you loved....
They must have a low opinion of everyone really.
I'm choosing to assume that the people on Team Gregg are on a wind up, because my actual opinion of the alternative wouldn't be considered "constructive" or "fit for public discourse".
What trial ? Not seen anywhere that this is likely to go to a prosecution.
Internal investigation, no trial, no jury. Employers decide on whether misconduct is evident and if so decide on the outcome
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
I believe in Joe Hendry
- Oct 4, 2003
- 12,217
He's probably asked someone to do that to him too.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Good Lord. 37 pages and the same people who were outraged by sponsored spectacles now defending a sex case.