The Clamp
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I think you’d simply get withering looks of pity from anyone in a work situation, with terrible lines like that.
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[TV] Greg Wallace
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clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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A journo made the point that’s he’s in entertainment, which is the business of being liked. If you do something which makes you unpopular then it stands to reason you run the risk of being hooked from a show. So it’s not being cancelled, more old school getting the boot for being a twat at work.
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The tangent started because I took issue with the hyperbolic media reaction to his behaviour, not his behaviour, which for the record I think if he is guilty he should be reprimanded. Pretty much all the comments on here treat this as a closed and shut case, he is guilty before going to trial "believe the victim" is the single most dangerous demand to come out of the dive into absurdity which "woke" has become. And this is why you are seeing pushback, not because people think those behaving criminally should get away with it. So as much as you don't like it I think discussing the reaction to these allegations and the trajectory we seem to be taking is very valid.
Very droll. What I meant was ’not recent’, but you knew that anyway.
The Clamp
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You went off on a tale about some idiot’s reaction to Harry Potter merch at work.
It has, at best, an extremely tenuous link to the thread topic.
You likened the victims of alleged sexual harassment to some drip complaining about Harry Potter.
I do see what you were saying and the link you were trying to make. And it’s not totally irrelevant but it’s a pretty ropey comparison.
Yeah I know its difficult to follow a discussion. Lie down take a nap
- Oct 17, 2008
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The media are playing this too for clicks and sales, in fairness. Every time there is a drip drip of news like this, it smacks of managed release of information. Women have come forward and the editors sit on the information, then when it dies down in the current cycle, out comes the next one, rather than releasing all together. It’s more powerful “oh, not another one”.
On the other hand it can make it seem like a character assassination and actually garner sympathy for the the dickhead in question.
On the other hand it can make it seem like a character assassination and actually garner sympathy for the the dickhead in question.
The Clamp
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Oh. You’re one of those.
It’s not really a discussion when you’re simply throwing irrelevant bullshit into the thread and declaring it a sub-thread.
Nobody is discussing it with you. Hence it’s not a discussion. Some have tried, including me, and you just get rude.
Thanks but no thanks.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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Bit disrespectful, she is the author of much loved children's books.
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
You are rightly judging the press and their handling of the complaints but then trying to decry the actual complaints as woke.
The definition of woke is alert to injustice.
How can injustice be a bad thing? Women have made complaints over 12 years and nobody has listened, or their complaints have just been dismissed.
And these days, if you say you’re English, you get arrested and thrown in jail.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Additionally, the ghostwriter of his autobiography has revealed some rather crass details of his behaviour. He's a very naughty boy !
Lenny Rider
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- Sep 15, 2010
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Fun fact The Entertainer Toy Shop Group, is owned by a born again Christian, who neither opens on a Sunday or sells anything Harry Potter as it’s the work of the Devil!
However in a twist, he’s also apparently taken the ‘Cohen shilling‘ and opened up concessions in every major Tesco store, still no Harry Potter but very much open on a Sunday! ( Unless he’s sold up obviously
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BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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If you disagree with so many opinons posted on this thread, why don't you reply to them and challenge them?
Your generalised suggestions and vague unspecified implied accusations come across as if you are uncertain of the substance.
Go on, be brave and challenge one of the posts you find so abhorrent.
You are certainly a second coming.
Dick Swiveller
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- Sep 9, 2011
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Shame it wasn't into a sock.
Absolutely untrue. Please show me where I have even spoken about the complainants. As to the definition of woke it has gone from meaning being awake to white middle class privilege and being aware of the discrimination that persists for people of colour and those in lower economic circumstances (something I was very happy to identify as) to some grotesque movement that demands obedience to their worldview, a movement which has absolutely no tolerance for questioning of their values. As Tim Minchin so succinctly put it "we progressives have turned into c***s".
Yes women have made complaints and not been listened to, heck I am old enough to have watched the "fly on the wall" doco of Thames Valley Police which caused outrage when the episode of the women alleging rape was aired. However that does not mean we should throw out the idea of innocent until proven guilty and replace it with guilty until proven innocent IE Believe the Victims. I won't believe anyone until the evidence has been through court, which as flawed as it is is our best way to protect the innocent and punish the guilty.