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[Albion] Something HAS to be done about the home atmosphere



Cheeky Monkey

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Jul 17, 2003
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So essentially we can only generate an atmosphere when dominating the top 6 and maybe when we're playing Palace. Anyone else or if we're not on top against the big teams and it's a flipping morgue. Are people really satisfied with that as a conclusion?
The team have to perform or they're not getting significant vocal backing is the general NSC stance. BHA fans are reactive and not proactive apparently.
 




Guinness Boy

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Just been watching Mainz v TSG (don’t ask) and the Mainz fans have been singing the theme tune from The A Team for most of the second half. Perhaps a tv theme tune is the answer? I’ll put forward Knight Rider, Teletubbies and Mastermind (this last one will require a DRUM).
 


Mr Bridger

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Just been watching Mainz v TSG (don’t ask) and the Mainz fans have been singing the theme tune from The A Team for most of the second half. Perhaps a tv theme tune is the answer? I’ll put forward Knight Rider, Teletubbies and Mastermind (this last one will require a DRUM).
Are you being served.
 


BBassic

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Just been watching Mainz v TSG (don’t ask) and the Mainz fans have been singing the theme tune from The A Team for most of the second half. Perhaps a tv theme tune is the answer? I’ll put forward Knight Rider, Teletubbies and Mastermind (this last one will require a DRUM).
I vote for Countdown but on the proviso that when we all do the "da da da dadada DONG" bit someone has to be putting the ball in the net.

It'll require a great deal of co-ordination and knowing roughly when we're about to score but I think we can do it.
 










Deadly Danson

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Wizbit. Anyway won't happen - seems all the chants are more or less the same nowadays - I note Chelsea were singing the same (ridiculous) Champions League song as us earlier. And the Europe again olé song is everywhere in different forms. Must be a Tik Tok thing or something. Shame as it's so much better to have unique songs. Still nothing for Fab or Carlos of course.
 




Han Solo

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Until you are fully invested and have seen disappointments like the Saints game a few times you’ll not “get” the disappointment
Whut? I get the disappointment.

I told the lad its completely normal (rather than 'utterly bizarre' as he thought) to get disappointed when not winning against the worst team in the league. This is the correct and accurate answer.

That getting disappointed about not beating the worst team in the league is something unique for die hard megafans is incorrect.

If you make a global survery beginning from the 1889-90 football league season asking the question "how did you feel when your team didn't beat the stillborn punching bag-relegation fodder at the bottom of the table?", people would say "disappointing". Human nature. If you lose a dart competition to a blind guy you also get disappointed.
 




Questions

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Whut? I get the disappointment.

I told the lad its completely normal (rather than 'utterly bizarre' as he thought) to get disappointed when not winning against the worst team in the league. This is the correct and accurate answer.

That getting disappointed about not beating the worst team in the league is something unique for die hard megafans is incorrect.

If you make a global survery beginning from the 1889-90 football league season asking the question "how did you feel when your team didn't beat the stillborn punching bag-relegation fodder at the bottom of the table?", people would say "disappointing". Human nature. If you lose a dart competition to a blind guy you also get disappointed.
I’m just about to smoke one as well 👍
 






Han Solo

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The team have to perform or they're not getting significant vocal backing is the general NSC stance. BHA fans are reactive and not proactive apparently.
A lot of English fan bases describe themselves as such.

The main difference between European football atmospheres in general and that in England is the lack of Italian influence.

Many Europeans followed Serie A as their "main foreign league" in the late 1980/90s. By then supporters all over Europe had already adopted the "casual hooligan" subculture from England, and with that also the singing and the chanting.

But people who went to Europe and saw their teams play against Italian teams were also amazed by the "ultras/tifo" culture with drums, megaphones, capos, flags, burning motorcycles, pyro and the whole f***ing chaos. Mixed with booze and British singing it just becomes... loud and intense.
30-40-50k drunk people with fireworks make noise, its just the way it is.

England weren't playing in European competitions and missed out on the tifosi train both out of that lack of influence but of course also for the obvious reason that neither people nor the Taylor Report felt it was time to import a 'burn down the stadium'-culture invented by Italian nazi/commie-anarchists. The safety first-think has remained consistent in English football since then. There won't be a Paul Barber tweet saying "BRING YOUR f***ing BOTTLE TOPS!" before the Palace game.

Domestically it seems in most countries that the variation in loudness doesn't come from some "difference in passion/amount of love/other nonsense", but from how drunk they were when the supporter cultures were initially formed. Did you have a good side and drunk working class fans in the (usually) 1960s when people started regularly singing in the stands? Chances are good you'll still be loud because your reputation is to be loud. If West Ham fans weren't blowing bubbles 70 years ago they sure as f*** wouldn't start today. A tradition to be "loud" or "weird" gets kind of self-fulfilling.

(please note that this is in no way, shape or form a comment about the atmosphere of any Brighton game, Brightonians in general, the United Kingdom or any of its citizens. I repeat: this is not an attack.)
 






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Just been watching Mainz v TSG (don’t ask) and the Mainz fans have been singing the theme tune from The A Team for most of the second half. Perhaps a tv theme tune is the answer? I’ll put forward Knight Rider, Teletubbies and Mastermind (this last one will require a DRUM).
I recommend The Big Match.

The words are really easy to learn, too.

Daa daa daa d' d' da da Dan
d' d' da da Daa
d' d' da da Dan

It is important to not mix up the Daas and the Dans, though.
Failure can have dangerous consequences
Or do I mean daagerous?
 




tstanbur

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Sep 16, 2011
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Wizbit. Anyway won't happen - seems all the chants are more or less the same nowadays - I note Chelsea were singing the same (ridiculous) Champions League song as us earlier. And the Europe again olé song is everywhere in different forms. Must be a Tik Tok thing or something. Shame as it's so much better to have unique songs. Still nothing for Fab or Carlos of course.
Chelsea sing “Palmer again” and have done since last season.

Loads of scummy fans singing it on repeat after the Amex evening game at the end of last season.
 


Ike and Tina Burner

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Mar 22, 2019
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I blame the 'Europe again, Ole Ole' and 'You're going down with the Palace' chants after we scored. Pretty sure we did that against Wolves too and guess what? Both games went to shit. Not that I'm superstitious or anything...
They're pretty much the only chants everyone will join in with though
 






Peacehaven Wild Kids

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They're pretty much the only chants everyone will join in with though

Exactly, that is why posting five verse versions of late 1960s hits that Burt Baccarat himself would have been proud of and then being puzzled why it doesn’t catch on is an exercise in futility.

Short, sweet, the less words the better.
Bob’s yer uncle.
 


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