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[Albion] Cost to be a mascot in the Premier League....



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Brian Munich

teH lulZ
Jul 7, 2008
334
Han Solo said:
Imagine a world where Premier League teams would take 5% of their income from global TV rights and use it to support the local community through making it cheaper for people to watch football, rather than suck every possible pound out of normal people to be able to afford another luxuary car for their backup left back.
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Watching live elite-level football regulary is not a basic human need. We have far greater issues in this country than the fact that taking your kid to a game a few times a season will cost £60-70. The Albion's loss-making charitable arm has community projects that will make a tangible difference to lives, and they probably do use a fair percentage of TV income to fund stuff.
 








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Han Solo

Well-known member
May 25, 2024
2,987
timbha said:
Imagine a world where clubs support their communities in far far more ways than just letting them watch football. I know, they could have a Foundation!!!
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Imagine a world where every single Premier League club is throwing coffee money on some charity or foundation.

"Thanks to the £20m we brought in in matchday income, we've been able to spend £30k on wheeling around some sick kids in front of our cameras and £19m on some random Julio Iglesias who'll pay his taxes in Cayman Islands and prevent a 100 other kids getting adequate healthcare", says 20 PL clubs, always met with the reaction "oh, look at little Steve, we're such a generous and nice club" by all 20 fan bases.

I love football as much as anyone here but lets not pretend pro football isn't a fat tumour on society. £2.5b funneled from the pockets of normal people who want to watch their team into the pockets of some 500.

20 clubs that for some 100 years of their lifespan couldn't survive a year without their local community becomes rich almost over night but they don't want to spend even 5% of that wealth to make life easy for those who supported them.

Dumb and greedy is what it is. The PL is your biggest cultural export and those who pay the most for is those who live closest to it.

Nah to me it can't be justified however much it is twisted. Tell every player in the PL to take a 10% paycut so that every fan can get in for a symbolic fee £5-10, and tell all the players that refuse this to go f*** themselves.
 


Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
68,176
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
Han Solo said:
Imagine a world where Premier League teams would take 5% of their income from global TV rights and use it to support the local community through making it cheaper for people to watch football, rather than suck every possible pound out of normal people to be able to afford another luxuary car for their backup left back.
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Imagine (some pop star recorded that) a world where musicians take less money and charge £5 for their gigs.

People in Britain can watch football for a few quid. Non league football for example.
 




beorhthelm

beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,065
Han Solo said:
Imagine a world where Premier League teams would take 5% of their income from global TV rights and use it to support the local community through making it cheaper for people to watch football, rather than suck every possible pound out of normal people to be able to afford another luxuary car for their backup left back.
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the Premier League gives something like £1.6bn (billion) to grass roots football, a lot more than the 5% you suggest. Albion in the community gives something like £20m, or ~10% revenue.
 


Justice

Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
21,147
Born In Shoreham
Brian Munich said:
We've got a whole board full of lifetime Albion fans here. I don't think any of us needed to be matchday mascots, and most of us became fans when we were far shitter and less fashionable to support than we are now!
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As a kid I was far more exited to go to the Goldstone on a school night than any PL game at the Amex as an adult.
Being a mascot never crossed my mind I wanted to be on my milk crate in the North.
All the American rubbish fireworks light shows, flame throwers adds nothing IMO.
Can we just watch the f***ing game is my first thought.
 


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Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
2,987
Thunder Bolt said:
Imagine (some pop star recorded that) a world where musicians take less money and charge £5 for their gigs.

People in Britain can watch football for a few quid. Non league football for example.
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Which is how it is supposed to be. "Unfortunately my team got promoted so I have to be make a class journey before I can watch them" is not how its supposed to be.

Developing a Stockholm syndrome around getting ripped off by fancy footballers, their agents, and all the clubs accepting it, doesn't change the real nature of charging people £50-£100 for watching 22 people kick a ball for 90 minutes. Its virtually usury.

Its good to see fans of some clubs wanting sports to be the inclusive all-classes-and-corners-of-society thing it was meant to be. Dubious if they will be heard in the mass of affluent football spectators riding into the defense of the business practices of these 20 teams and the 72 EFL teams that want to be just like them. But those knights of modern football can't have any complaints if they find themselves priced out in 10 years - they begged for it.
 




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Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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beorhthelm said:
the Premier League gives something like £1.6bn (billion) to grass roots football, a lot more than the 5% you suggest. Albion in the community gives something like £20m, or ~10% revenue.
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Ah yes. The selfless charitable act of increasing interest in football.

Thought the coke selling lad around the corner was a wanker but maybe the "first one's for free" was his way of giving something back to society.
 


Simster

Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,021
Surrey
Han Solo said:
Which is how it is supposed to be. "Unfortunately my team got promoted so I have to be make a class journey before I can watch them" is not how its supposed to be.

Developing a Stockholm syndrome around getting ripped off by fancy footballers, their agents, and all the clubs accepting it, doesn't change the real nature of charging people £50-£100 for watching 22 people kick a ball for 90 minutes. Its virtually usury.

Its good to see fans of some clubs wanting sports to be the inclusive all-classes-and-corners-of-society thing it was meant to be. Dubious if they will be heard in the mass of affluent football spectators riding into the defense of the business practices of these 20 teams and the 72 EFL teams that want to be just like them. But those knights of modern football can't have any complaints if they find themselves priced out in 10 years - they begged for it.
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£50-100? I paid £37 for a ticket tonight, and I'm not a STH. I'd say that stacks up favourably compared to a west end show for example and is about the £5-10 more than entry to horse racing or a professional rugby match.

You can buy tickets for the west end fairly cheaply too, but most seats are north of £60. Your point is diluted when you overstate the problem.
 
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Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
2,987
Simster said:
£50-100? I paid £37 for a ticket tonight, and I'm not a STH. I'd say that stacks up favourably compared to a west end show for example and is about the £5-10 more than entry to horse racing or a professional rugby match.

You can buy tickets for the west end fairly cheaply too, but most seats are north of £60. Your point is diluted when you overstate the problem.
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Had to google what "West End Show" is and its some sort of entertainment spectacle where nothing anyone does matters because its all written in a script. You can channel the energy and desire of your entire community and Hamlet is still dead as death at the end of the fifth act. Romeo gets Julia because Jordan Ayew doesn't show up in the 94th minute to f*** it up.

How many spend their week nervous ahead of, or raging the day after, the "West End Story"?

Likewise ice hockeey, rugby, balet, horse polo, Masterchef, John Cleese, Top Gun and Top Gear can all go eat, shit and die compared to football.

Its all fake bullshit designed to make you escape reality. Football on the other hand - ooga ooga booga! Its made for us to indulge reality!

Football is the largest people's movement in the world and if you can provide your local or national population with it for free through funding it with people who feel they can afford to pay to watch it on tv - take the chance with both hands. Imho.

I mean, would your local pub make you pay more for you beer if a million random people in China paid £50 to the pub to watch you drink it?*

*not entirely thought through and could be a terrible metaphor but you might get the point if there is one
 




Simster

Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,021
Surrey
Han Solo said:
Had to google what "West End Show" is and its some sort of entertainment spectacle where nothing anyone does matters because its all written in a script. You can channel the energy and desire of your entire community and Hamlet is still dead as death at the end of the fifth act. Romeo gets Julia because Jordan Ayew doesn't show up in the 94th minute to f*** it up.

How many spend their week nervous ahead of, or raging the day after, the "West End Story"?

Likewise ice hockeey, rugby, balet, horse polo, Masterchef, John Cleese, Top Gun and Top Gear can all go eat, shit and die compared to football.

Its all fake bullshit designed to make you escape reality. Football on the other hand - ooga ooga booga! Its made for us to indulge reality!

Football is the largest people's movement in the world and if you can provide your local or national population with it for free through funding it with people who feel they can afford to pay to watch it on tv - take the chance with both hands. Imho.

I mean, would your local pub make you pay more for you beer if a million random people in China paid £50 to the pub to watch you drink it?*

*not entirely thought through and could be a terrible metaphor but you might get the point if there is one
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This is just word salad, frankly.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,714
If the revenue stream is that important to the club, maybe the mascot package thing could be re-balanced such that there's an equal number of selected-at-random Junior Seagulls paying nothing and the same number of paying mascots with their parents paying more than they currently pay such that the mascot monerary books balance as they do at present
 


beorhthelm

beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,065
Han Solo said:
Ah yes. The selfless charitable act of increasing interest in football.

Thought the coke selling lad around the corner was a wanker but maybe the "first one's for free" was his way of giving something back to society.
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you asked for a world where 5% of TV money is put into local community. when it's shown far more than that amount is already put into the community, make some crass drug dealing reference. about 2 hours to completely reverse your opinion.
 




The Lemming Stomper

The Lemming Stomper

Under the flag
Apr 1, 2007
2,775
Saltdean
Personally, I think the price is far too low...

I would willingly sell my house and all it's contents to help a youngster become a mascot for a day...

 


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timbha

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,587
Sussex
Tom Hark Preston Park said:
If the revenue stream is that important to the club, maybe the mascot package thing could be re-balanced such that there's an equal number of selected-at-random Junior Seagulls paying nothing and the same number of paying mascots with their parents paying more than they currently pay such that the mascot monerary books balance as they do at present
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Making it even harder for the parents who can afford say £300 and no more. Leave it alone.
 


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Bodian

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May 3, 2012
14,698
Cumbria
Bring back Bryan wade!! said:
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Doesn’t look great does it.
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Just had a look at a few others.

Brentford is free - BUT, a condition is that the mascot must have the latest home kit, which is not included in the package - £88, plus be a season ticket holder
Fulham isn't exactly free - you have to pay £5 to enter a lottery. Do that every home match, and that's £100 right there!
Chelsea - again, the child has to purchase a full official kit - £80+

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timbha

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,587
Sussex
Bodian said:
Just had a look at a few others.

Brentford is free - BUT, a condition is that the mascot must have the latest home kit, which is not included in the package - £88, plus be a season ticket holder
Fulham isn't exactly free - you have to pay £5 to enter a lottery. Do that every home match, and that's £100 right there!
Chelsea - again, the child has to purchase a full official kit - £80+

etc
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Thank you. Big lesson to OP. Do some research and credit the source!!
 


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