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WhingForPresident

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Feb 23, 2009
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Ashley Williams on MOTD just now: "Not even a foul. Definitely not a yellow card."

So what happens now? Everyone knows it was the wrong call. Does the ref get dropped? Does it get rescinded? Do we get another apology to add to the collection?

I'd happily bet none of these things happen. He could've easily cost us two points today with his ineptitude but will obviously get away with it scot-free.
 










Eeyore

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MoTD thought Baleba's 2nd yellow wasn't even a foul
Ref's eyes deceived him there. He seems more focused on Beleba coming across him, but it looks like a slip from the Bournemouth player. There's minimal contact if any.

It's interesting how in live time it does look like a yellow card offence, but when it's viewed close up there is doubt about it being even a foul. From the angle he has, the referee has seen a clear foul because it looks that way. It's also interesting that Radio Sussex said the instruction came from the fourth official concerning the card.

So, again, I sympathise with the ref and go into my bunker. It's clearly the wrong decision and could have had an impact on the match. But, like it or not, these things happen and will always happen.


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Eeyore

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Attwell is a see you next Tuesday
Referees make wrong decisions, it's part of the game. It doesn't make them a c****. And it's that sort of abuse that means there are less of them coming through. If you were called a c*** every time you made an error at work how would you respond ? I do suggest that if these things raise folk's blood pressure to the point of irrational outbursts then trainspotting may be a better pursuit.

Most of the errors supporters call refs out for actually aren't when viewed neutrally. Today it was an error. It happens.
 


Moshe Gariani

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Mar 10, 2005
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I like what I heard an experienced ref say about being extra careful about giving second yellows. He said that for him it needed to be accumulation or an "orange card" offence. This sort of commonsense would have saved Attwell from making his embarrassing blunder.
 


Da Man Clay

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Dec 16, 2004
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Whilst I don’t like Attwell it did look a yellow all day from his view. It clearly isn’t when slowed down and shown on the reverse but as soon as it happened it looked as if it was the right call. Could have done with some help from the 4th official but even to him I expect at that speed it looked questionable.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Whilst I don’t like Attwell it did look a yellow all day from his view. It clearly isn’t when slowed down and shown on the reverse but as soon as it happened it looked as if it was the right call. Could have done with some help from the 4th official but even to him I expect at that speed it looked questionable.

No. The nearby fans and players didn’t react. Cut the sound of the drama queen commentator and it was a nothing coming together.

The ref made the amateurish blunder of reacting to a player writhing in pain. Rather than instead seeing what actually happened. If in any doubt, don’t act.

Radio Sussex felt the fourth official was behind the error.
 


upthealbion1970

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Jan 22, 2009
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Referees make wrong decisions, it's part of the game. It doesn't make them a c****. And it's that sort of abuse that means there are less of them coming through. If you were called a c*** every time you made an error at work how would you respond ? I do suggest that if these things raise folk's blood pressure to the point of irrational outbursts then trainspotting may be a better pursuit.

Most of the errors supporters call refs out for actually aren't when viewed neutrally. Today it was an error. It happens.
Attwell had proved time and time again he is a useless c***

For the record I get called a useless c*** when I make a mistake at work, does it stop me going to work or make me whine about it? Absolutely not

Sooner refs are held accountable in public the sooner they will have the opportunity to explain their thought process and gain credibility for their actions
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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If only there was some kind of video that could help him make a decisi...

Oh.
 


Deadly Danson

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Oct 22, 2003
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Referees make wrong decisions, it's part of the game. It doesn't make them a c****. And it's that sort of abuse that means there are less of them coming through. If you were called a c*** every time you made an error at work how would you respond ? I do suggest that if these things raise folk's blood pressure to the point of irrational outbursts then trainspotting may be a better pursuit.

Most of the errors supporters call refs out for actually aren't when viewed neutrally. Today it was an error. It happens.
Thing is - it's not even this decision that bothers me about Attwell - it was another clanger of course but he's generally useless anyway so that's par for the course. Following on from THAT Spurs game where no one will ever convince me that he wasn't biased against us and subsequent games that he's been involved with us, yesterday it was the accumulation of small decisions against us from the first whistle that smells fishy. Nothing that major but continually warning us against time wasting even before we started, little fouls that went unpunished, silly amounts of injury time and even just before the red (and I haven't watched this back) there was an obvious yellow for Bournemouth during our attack that he waved advantage for, this led directly to the attack that Baleba stopped - I was expecting him to go back and wave the yellow at the Bournemouth player for the earlier foul but, no this buffoon chose to show a yellow to Baleba instead.

I fully expect a video to emerge where it's revealed he hates Brighton due to a seagull nicking his ice cream or something.
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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Ref's eyes deceived him there. He seems more focused on Beleba coming across him, but it looks like a slip from the Bournemouth player. There's minimal contact if any.

It's interesting how in live time it does look like a yellow card offence, but when it's viewed close up there is doubt about it being even a foul. From the angle he has, the referee has seen a clear foul because it looks that way. It's also interesting that Radio Sussex said the instruction came from the fourth official concerning the card.

So, again, I sympathise with the ref and go into my bunker. It's clearly the wrong decision and could have had an impact on the match. But, like it or not, these things happen and will always happen.


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Edit: just reread your post about 4th official
It's ridiculous that VAR can't get involved in 2nd yellow situations.
It is ultimately the same match event as a straight red.
 


JetsetJimbo

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Jun 13, 2011
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Thing is - it's not even this decision that bothers me about Attwell - it was another clanger of course but he's generally useless anyway so that's par for the course. Following on from THAT Spurs game where no one will ever convince me that he wasn't biased against us and subsequent games that he's been involved with us, yesterday it was the accumulation of small decisions against us from the first whistle that smells fishy. Nothing that major but continually warning us against time wasting even before we started, little fouls that went unpunished, silly amounts of injury time and even just before the red (and I haven't watched this back) there was an obvious yellow for Bournemouth during our attack that he waved advantage for, this led directly to the attack that Baleba stopped - I was expecting him to go back and wave the yellow at the Bournemouth player for the earlier foul but, no this buffoon chose to show a yellow to Baleba instead.

I fully expect a video to emerge where it's revealed he hates Brighton due to a seagull nicking his ice cream or something.

I totally understand why people resort to conspiratorial thinking like this, but I think this is a situation where Occam's Razor comes in useful. Plenty of other clubs have complaints about Attwell, and I'm betting we're not the only board with a thread about him.

He's just really, really bad at this and shouldn't be reffing at this level for that reason.
 


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