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[Politics] WWIII



vegster

vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Just read the BBC news report and it all seems like a sensible move. They are decommissioning out of date, obsolete and uncrewable units in order to save cash for more viable projects.
 




mile oak

mile oak

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May 21, 2023
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vegster said:
Just read the BBC news report and it all seems like a sensible move. They are decommissioning out of date, obsolete and uncrewable units in order to save cash for more viable projects.
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Timing is awful and no mention of concrete (planned) replacement.
 




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Oct 8, 2003
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Eeyore said:
Would you have been asking the same question if had been the Tories ? (who I suspect would have done the same)
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No.
 


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Oct 8, 2003
56,103
Faversham
Honestly. What a load of old bollocks.

I'm going to have to chop down that tree and join @Weststander in another room.
 




Zeberdi

Zeberdi

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Oct 20, 2022
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mile oak said:
The Tories had not authorised the same level of assault so its reasonable to say no the Tories would not have take the same action. What we can be certain of is huge austerity following looney tunes budget policies from Labour where the only measure they went towards getting it right was the tax Farmers will pay only it should be a on level terms with everyone else and at the 40% not 20% rate.

Before saying "NO" to WWIII I think its worth exploring WWIII could like quite different to WWI and WWII as the whole world looks quite different now in the fullness of time and everything that has gone along with that.
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No it’s not reasonable because as I said above, the British policy change has come on the heels of Biden last week changing US policy towards the use of long range US missiles on targets inside Russia. It would have been untenable for us not to follow suit and very likely mutually discussed between the UK and US before Biden made the announcement as it would have been whoever was the British PM at the time..

If there’s any cause for concern then it lies with alignment and our reliance on the US for Trident and when to use nuclear weapons - not updating conventional hardware and streamlining our defensive capabilities.

www.declassifieduk.org

Starmer permanently ties UK nuclear arsenal to Washington

Exclusive: Britain’s nuclear weapons are now forever reliant on US military scientists after a transatlantic treaty was quietly rewritten.
www.declassifieduk.org www.declassifieduk.org
 




wellquickwoody

wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
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What are you doing mixing inheritance tax and policy on Russian aggression together?
mile oak said:
The Tories had not authorised the same level of assault so it’s reasonable to say no the Tories would not have take the same action. What we can be certain of is huge austerity following looney tunes budget policies from Labour where the only measure they went towards getting it right was the tax Farmers will pay only it should be a on level terms with everyone else and at the 40% not 20% rate.

Before saying "NO" to WWIII I think its worth exploring WWIII could like quite different to WWI and WWII as the whole world looks quite different now in the fullness of time and everything that has gone along with that.
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jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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mile oak said:
The Tories had not authorised the same level of assault so its reasonable to say no the Tories would not have take the same action. What we can be certain of is huge austerity following looney tunes budget policies from Labour where the only measure they went towards getting it right was the tax Farmers will pay only it should be a on level terms with everyone else and at the 40% not 20% rate.

Before saying "NO" to WWIII I think its worth exploring WWIII could like quite different to WWI and WWII as the whole world looks quite different now in the fullness of time and everything that has gone along with that.
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Famously the Tories, very against Austerity.
 


Cheshire Cat

Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Nov 4, 2006
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Sitting on a bough of a tree a few yards off...


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Jul 8, 2003
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Kitbag in Dubai
I think I'll wait for Christmas when the WW4 will be out.
 




jackanada

jackanada

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Jul 19, 2011
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Brighton
mile oak said:
The Tories had not authorised the same level of assault so its reasonable to say no the Tories would not have take the same action. What we can be certain of is huge austerity following looney tunes budget policies from Labour where the only measure they went towards getting it right was the tax Farmers will pay only it should be a on level terms with everyone else and at the 40% not 20% rate.

Before saying "NO" to WWIII I think its worth exploring WWIII could like quite different to WWI and WWII as the whole world looks quite different now in the fullness of time and everything that has gone along with that.
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How are you describing the Tory financial policies then? Debt more than tripled and record poverty, services cut, assets sold off and a huge catalogue of avoidable errors that would dwarf Gordon Brown selling off gold even if it was free to store and went for a penny a ton.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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mile oak said:
The Tories had not authorised the same level of assault so its reasonable to say no the Tories would not have take the same action. What we can be certain of is huge austerity following looney tunes budget policies from Labour where the only measure they went towards getting it right was the tax Farmers will pay only it should be a on level terms with everyone else and at the 40% not 20% rate.
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The looney tunes policy of trying to raise more taxes to fill the vast chasm of money needed over money available?
Righty-ho..................
mile oak said:
Before saying "NO" to WWIII I think its worth exploring WWIII could like quite different to WWI and WWII as the whole world looks quite different now in the fullness of time and everything that has gone along with that.
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Sorry to tell you, but it's not up to you or me - or us - to say yea or no the WWIII. That will be decided for us.
 




shingle

shingle

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Jan 18, 2004
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Lewes
Here's the question that I would have asked .....

Have our government just pushed the UK further towards military conflict with Russia by allowing Ukraine extended use of Stormchaser missiles.

Putin seems unstable and desperate, he might see Britain as isolated and deserving of some kind of strike, it wouldnt be the first time that a despot has miscalculated. Robert Peston for one, seems very concerned at the escalation.
 




TugWilson

TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
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Dorset
Deportivo Seagull said:
They are not. They are scrapping two assault ships which have already been mothballed. The frigate is structurally f***ed hence being scrapped. The chinooks are very old as are the drones. Saying that they need to be replaced soonest.
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Do you know what is happening with the other 26s ?
 




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