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Tim Over Whelmed

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Here is a Palace question for you...

What have the following lower league clubs all done that Palace have not ?
Leeds , Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday, Bolton, Wimbledon, Wigan, Birmingham City, Swansea, Burnley, Reading, Stoke, Sunderland, Derby , Coventry, Blackburn, Middlesbrough & Charlton.
(a further clue - QPR & Norwich have also done it but it was easier for them)
Plummeted to Division One after the Premier League?
 




papajaff

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Aug 7, 2005
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Here is a Palace question for you...

What have the following lower league clubs all done that Palace have not ?
Leeds , Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday, Bolton, Wimbledon, Wigan, Birmingham City, Swansea, Burnley, Reading, Stoke, Sunderland, Derby , Coventry, Blackburn, Middlesbrough & Charlton.
(a further clue - QPR & Norwich have also done it but it was easier for them)
Got rid of *Thrush from their forums?


*Duggie
 










Tim Over Whelmed

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Meanwhile @Dougie was last seen on these pages on Nov 2. The same day that Crystal Palace FC (est. 2010) achieved the most recent of their 7 (seven) points this season. That's correlation and causation, regression analysis fans.

I have not missed the irritating poltroon one little bit...
In fairness, it's not Dougie's fault, his Mum changed the Wi-Fi password because he didn't clean his room
 


loz

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Apr 27, 2009
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Plummeted to Division One after the Premier League?

Before the premier league there used to be the football league, the football league consisted of 4 divisions, 1 being the best and 4 being the worst.

Crystal Palace did mange to go from division 1 to division 3 in consecutive seasons so your guess there is not correct.

Although those seasons we were managed by Malcom Alison and for old fossils like me it really was a golden age, young team playing swashbuckling football, FA cup semi final while being in the 3rd division, Peter Taylor being capped for England while playing for palace in the 3rd division. Sansom, Cannon, Hilaire,Murphy, Gilbert, Nicolas….i might be viewing this with the rose youthfulness spectacles, but football was so much more fun back then.
 


Change at Barnham

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Aug 6, 2011
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Here is a Palace question for you...

What have the following lower league clubs all done that Palace have not ?
Leeds , Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday, Bolton, Wimbledon, Wigan, Birmingham City, Swansea, Burnley, Reading, Stoke, Sunderland, Derby , Coventry, Blackburn, Middlesbrough & Charlton.
(a further clue - QPR & Norwich have also done it but it was easier for them)
Did they do it on the pitch or off the pitch?

i.e. was it football or finance related?
 






Eeyore

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Before the premier league there used to be the football league, the football league consisted of 4 divisions, 1 being the best and 4 being the worst.

Crystal Palace did mange to go from division 1 to division 3 in consecutive seasons so your guess there is not correct.

Although those seasons we were managed by Malcom Alison and for old fossils like me it really was a golden age, young team playing swashbuckling football, FA cup semi final while being in the 3rd division, Peter Taylor being capped for England while playing for palace in the 3rd division. Sansom, Cannon, Hilaire,Murphy, Gilbert, Nicolas….i might be viewing this with the rose youthfulness spectacles, but football was so much more fun back then.
I didn't know about Peter Taylor.

I think cricket was better, but not football. The unruly crowds and those awful pitches that killed any creativity in players. Hoof. Brighton won a famous victory at Forest in 1979. The first home defeat they had in a year. I watched the highlights of the game not so long ago and had to turn it off. A mud bath of hoof and hustle. There are things I would take from the 70s, the fact that things felt less regulated. But, no, I really wouldn't want those days back. But cricket, ahhh **sighs**
 


loz

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I didn't know about Peter Taylor.

I think cricket was better, but not football. The unruly crowds and those awful pitches that killed any creativity in players. Hoof. Brighton won a famous victory at Forest in 1979. The first home defeat they had in a year. I watched the highlights of the game not so long ago and had to turn it off. A mud bath of hoof and hustle. There are things I would take from the 70s, the fact that things felt less regulated. But, no, I really wouldn't want those days back. But cricket, ahhh **sighs**

Steve Bull also from 3rd division wolves got a few caps a couple of years later.

There is no doubt the fielding is so much better these days, but I find the way batters throw their wickets away and seem happy with strike rate more than a batting average drives me mad.

Just bat how conditions and score dictate not on a stupid shot.

I.e my 9 runs off 92 balls is my proud moment in timed cricket coming in at 37 for 5, a draw and a delightfully frustrated opposition was the prize.
 






Eeyore

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Steve Bull also from 3rd division wolves got a few caps a couple of years later.

There is no doubt the fielding is so much better these days, but I find the way batters throw their wickets away and seem happy with strike rate more than a batting average drives me mad.

Just bat how conditions and score dictate not on a stupid shot.

I.e my 9 runs off 92 balls is my proud moment in timed cricket coming in at 37 for 5, a draw and a delightfully frustrated opposition was the prize.
That is Sunday perfection. I used to bat at number 10 and frustrate to the draw. Our number 11, sat there with his pads on for 40 minutes as I crawled to my 2 runs through ample defence. I remember I had a habit of getting out on the first ball of the last over leaving Dave the Dab five balls to face. It once happened at Ardngly- No 'well done for holding out, I'll see us through' just a 'FFS, Ian, I'd taken my pads off'
 


Seagull58

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Steve Bull also from 3rd division wolves got a few caps a couple of years later.

There is no doubt the fielding is so much better these days, but I find the way batters throw their wickets away and seem happy with strike rate more than a batting average drives me mad.

Just bat how conditions and score dictate not on a stupid shot.

I.e my 9 runs off 92 balls is my proud moment in timed cricket coming in at 37 for 5, a draw and a delightfully frustrated opposition was the prize.
Wolves were in division 2 when Bully was capped, weren't they?
Edit: he was first capped when they were in division 3. They got promoted that season.
Bull was still technically a Third Division player when he won his first cap, at the end of the 1988–89 season, as Wolves had not yet played in Division Two after their promotion that season. He remains the last player to be capped by England from outside the top two tiers, and one of only five post-war players so honoured.
 






Tim Over Whelmed

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Before the premier league there used to be the football league, the football league consisted of 4 divisions, 1 being the best and 4 being the worst.

Crystal Palace did mange to go from division 1 to division 3 in consecutive seasons so your guess there is not correct.

Although those seasons we were managed by Malcom Alison and for old fossils like me it really was a golden age, young team playing swashbuckling football, FA cup semi final while being in the 3rd division, Peter Taylor being capped for England while playing for palace in the 3rd division. Sansom, Cannon, Hilaire,Murphy, Gilbert, Nicolas….i might be viewing this with the rose youthfulness spectacles, but football was so much more fun back then.

No, it was a much fairer league but we may be forgetting gutters as toilets (Brisbane Rd), violence around every corner, crushes when a goal was scored and sat on cold broken trains trying to get home ….. the golden era? 😉
 




Change at Barnham

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Aug 6, 2011
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It's written in the stars for Wilf to return in January to give the team and fans a much needed confidence boost and to drag them out of the relegation zone.
But would he settle for a short term deal on vastly reduced money and a relegation clause in his contract? I would think the conversations are already happening with his agent.
This could be a tricky one to get over the line until he realises that it's the best offer he will get.
 




ConfusedGloryHunter

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It's written in the stars for Wilf to return in January to give the team and fans a much needed confidence boost and to drag them out of the relegation zone.
But would he settle for a short term deal on vastly reduced money and a relegation clause in his contract? I would think the conversations are already happening with his agent.
This could be a tricky one to get over the line until he realises that it's the best offer he will get.
That or Marseille...
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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You couldn't make it up .... ring-fenced cash that doesn't exist, a plan that hasn't been financed long or short term, a majority shareholder who wants out almost at any price and a club selling off its' playing assets without suitable replacements ...... enjoy The Championship, and say "Hi" to everyone in Division One as you pass through.
The really interesting thing is that Textor is the least wealthy of the yank owners. Donner and Blitzen (or whatever their names are) are reportedly both wealthier than Tony Bloom.

They just think that committing more of their cash to Palace is a bad investment.
 


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