[Albion] Stand or Fall

UnhingedSeagull94 said:

Any chance you can give me the name of both books? Looking to thicken out my Christmas list.

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Thunder Bolt said:

I agree with you, but the people that I and @ROSM mentioned didn’t even get a name check. The Falmer For All committee with a brief glimpse of John Hewitt, comprised of (……following names). Just a brief acknowledgement of the hundreds of hours, planning demonstrations, postcards, letters etc. Five seconds at the most.

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Hamilton said:

I love our club, but we've totally sold out on everything we fought for in those years.

Back then, Fans Utd and saving the club were not just about ensuring the Albion's survival, they were about standing up and saying that this shouldn't happen to ANY club.

Personally, I think we had fire in our belly, and for every other fan we met - either at Fans Utd or as we went on the road - it was about looking them in the eye and saying, 'if we don't do something about this, then it could be you next.'

When we survived, I thought we might go on to build something different. To build a club prepared to stand up and say what it thought. To be a club that never ever turned a blind eye to bad owners, corruption in football, and unfair treatment of fans. To be a club that would happily campaign for the Scunthorpes and Bury FCs. But that didn't happen.

Instead, we ourselves turned a blind eye to one man taking over the club again. Why? Because he's a good egg and he's a life long fan. It's Barber's contant response the the question of why there isn't more fan representation on the board. He says, "why do we need it? We already have a fan owning the club."

Personally, I want to be the only club in the Premier League campaign for a Football Regulator. Instead we're supporting the status quo in the name of business, because doesn't England want the most commercially successful league in the world? Well, I'll point out that it's countries without the Premier League that have won all the World Cups and European Championships.

So, this film, it's just a sticking plaster. A nice memory. It makes us feel good and stops us asking the difficult questions.

The response to the Shoreham Air Disaster was brilliant. It showed great human qualities. I don't doubt the that club has huge integrity and ethics. But what I'm talking about is something that goes deeper. Something that is about changing the fabric of the game for all the fans. Making sure that every club and every fan is supported. Making sure that the club really does put the community first rather than just do the Albion Foundation stuff because it's part of an ESG box tick.

What is our purpose as a club? Is it just to be successful? Or is it to be a club that stands up for fans? When I was trudging the streets giving our Falmer Yes leaflets, I guess I thought the latter.

Anyhow, as I say, I love my club. What I feel is just a matter for me, but I thought I'd share it anyhow.

Up The Albion!

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Hamilton said:

I love our club, but we've totally sold out on everything we fought for in those years.

Back then, Fans Utd and saving the club were not just about ensuring the Albion's survival, they were about standing up and saying that this shouldn't happen to ANY club.

Personally, I think we had fire in our belly, and for every other fan we met - either at Fans Utd or as we went on the road - it was about looking them in the eye and saying, 'if we don't do something about this, then it could be you next.'

When we survived, I thought we might go on to build something different. To build a club prepared to stand up and say what it thought. To be a club that never ever turned a blind eye to bad owners, corruption in football, and unfair treatment of fans. To be a club that would happily campaign for the Scunthorpes and Bury FCs. But that didn't happen.

Instead, we ourselves turned a blind eye to one man taking over the club again. Why? Because he's a good egg and he's a life long fan. It's Barber's contant response the the question of why there isn't more fan representation on the board. He says, "why do we need it? We already have a fan owning the club."

Personally, I want to be the only club in the Premier League campaign for a Football Regulator. Instead we're supporting the status quo in the name of business, because doesn't England want the most commercially successful league in the world? Well, I'll point out that it's countries without the Premier League that have won all the World Cups and European Championships.



The response to the Shoreham Air Disaster was brilliant. It showed great human qualities. I don't doubt the that club has huge integrity and ethics. But what I'm talking abois something that goes deeper. Something that is about changing the fabric of the game for all the fans. Making sure that every club and every fan is supported. Making sure that the club re

Up The Albion!

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Javeaseagull said:

I remember being told that Betamax was the equipment of choice for professionals, studio recordings etc when the fight for a standard was at its height. No idea if that was true but it sounded convincing at the time.

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Hamilton said:

I love our club, but we've totally sold out on everything we fought for in those years.

Back then, Fans Utd and saving the club were not just about ensuring the Albion's survival, they were about standing up and saying that this shouldn't happen to ANY club.

Personally, I think we had fire in our belly, and for every other fan we met - either at Fans Utd or as we went on the road - it was about looking them in the eye and saying, 'if we don't do something about this, then it could be you next.'

When we survived, I thought we might go on to build something different. To build a club prepared to stand up and say what it thought. To be a club that never ever turned a blind eye to bad owners, corruption in football, and unfair treatment of fans. To be a club that would happily campaign for the Scunthorpes and Bury FCs. But that didn't happen.

Instead, we ourselves turned a blind eye to one man taking over the club again. Why? Because he's a good egg and he's a life long fan. It's Barber's contant response the the question of why there isn't more fan representation on the board. He says, "why do we need it? We already have a fan owning the club."

Personally, I want to be the only club in the Premier League campaign for a Football Regulator. Instead we're supporting the status quo in the name of business, because doesn't England want the most commercially successful league in the world? Well, I'll point out that it's countries without the Premier League that have won all the World Cups and European Championships.

So, this film, it's just a sticking plaster. A nice memory. It makes us feel good and stops us asking the difficult questions.

The response to the Shoreham Air Disaster was brilliant. It showed great human qualities. I don't doubt the that club has huge integrity and ethics. But what I'm talking about is something that goes deeper. Something that is about changing the fabric of the game for all the fans. Making sure that every club and every fan is supported. Making sure that the club really does put the community first rather than just do the Albion Foundation stuff because it's part of an ESG box tick.

What is our purpose as a club? Is it just to be successful? Or is it to be a club that stands up for fans? When I was trudging the streets giving our Falmer Yes leaflets, I guess I thought the latter.

Anyhow, as I say, I love my club. What I feel is just a matter for me, but I thought I'd share it anyhow.

Up The Albion!

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Stato said:

Build A Bonfire: How football fans united to save Brighton and Hove Al

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We Want Falmer: How Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club, and Its Fans, United to Build a Stadium - Steve North; Paul Hodson: 9781907158162 - AbeBooks

We Want Falmer: How Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club, and Its Fans, United to Build a Stadium by Steve North; Paul Hodson - ISBN 10: 1907158162 - ISBN 13: 9781907158162 - Stripe Publishing - 2011 - Hardcover

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And while we're about it here is Paul Hayward and Stewart Weir's too:

More Than Ninety Minutes: Brighton and Hove Albion 1995-1997 by Weir, Stewart; Hayward, Paul: Very Good Hardcover (1997) | Holt Art Books

ISBN: 9780953121403 - Hardcover - More Than Ninety Minutes - 1997 - Condition: Very Good - Book is in very good condition. 200pp with b/w photographs. Number 1704/5625 - More Than Ninety Minutes: Brighton and Hove Albion 1995-1997

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Brian Fantana said:

I agree with a lot of that, but I think personally it is a bit harsh to say we've sold out on everything we fought for. The primary aim, I thought, of what we fought for was to deliver the club back to Brighton, into a purpose-built stadium, re-establish a healthy relationship between the board and the fans, lay the infrastructure foundations for the club to be successful long into the future and re-capture a couple of generations of lost fans.

If you look at where the club is today, from virtually any perspective or metric (either on or off the field), I think there's a hell of lot more to proud about than there is to be concerned about.

TB, PB and the rest of the hierachy have done a brilliant job of re-integrating the club into the fabric of the community on a whole host of different levels.

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Skuller said:

I was told that if you had your Betamax player stolen by a night time house-breaker, you should walk down the street to the nearest street-light and you’ll find the machine abandoned in a hedge.

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Tom Hark Preston Park said:

These days all you'll find abandoned in a hedge is an Albion calendar

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Hamilton said:

I love our club, but we've totally sold out on everything we fought for in those years.

Back then, Fans Utd and saving the club were not just about ensuring the Albion's survival, they were about standing up and saying that this shouldn't happen to ANY club.

Personally, I think we had fire in our belly, and for every other fan we met - either at Fans Utd or as we went on the road - it was about looking them in the eye and saying, 'if we don't do something about this, then it could be you next.'

When we survived, I thought we might go on to build something different. To build a club prepared to stand up and say what it thought. To be a club that never ever turned a blind eye to bad owners, corruption in football, and unfair treatment of fans. To be a club that would happily campaign for the Scunthorpes and Bury FCs. But that didn't happen.
[SNIP]

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Wozza said:

Hmmm... Fans United was simply about fans of other clubs showing solidarity... because it could be their club next. And that's it.

It wasn't about giving Brighton supporters special powers to fight all evils in football.

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ROSM said:

You mean you didn't get bitten by a spider and start shooting webs across the room?

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Javeaseagull said:

I remember being told that Betamax was the equipment of choice for professionals, studio recordings etc when the fight for a standard was at its height. No idea if that was true but it sounded convincing at the time.

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Thunder Bolt said:

Yet, the American Express Community Stadium is just the Âmex now, and Albion in the Community is now Brighton Foundation. Step by step backwards.

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WATFORD zero said:

It was absolutely true, very convincing and Sony don't get things like that wrong

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Thunder Bolt said:

Yet, the American Express Community Stadium is just the Âmex now, and Albion in the Community is now Brighton Foundation. Step by step backwards.

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UnhingedSeagull94 said:

Top man

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