pigmanovich
Good Old Sausage by the Sea
Which section is that? N1H or N1I?
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[Albion] Safe Standing 25/26 season (North Stand)
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Greenbag50
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- Jun 1, 2016
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pigmanovich
Good Old Sausage by the Sea
Ah, annoying — my ST is currently in N1H but I’ve only sat in other parts of the grounds as I always have a guest with me. Reluctant to use the seat if it’s effectively non standing
DarrenFreemansPerm
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“I sit elsewhere, no to safe standing”
It doesn’t impact you.
How has this got 8% of the votes?
It doesn’t impact you.
How has this got 8% of the votes?
They can be effectively ignored……..
You need to adopt the proper response DFP, call them thick or stupid
The Grockle
Formally Croydon Seagull
I think it makes sense to make 10-15% of the stadium safe standing. So make the north and a portion of the away end safe standing.
Each to their own but if you're in the north and prefer to be seated you're probably in the wrong stand IMO. Its only home to 10% of the stadium and there's plenty of options elsewhere. The new configured South stand could house those who want to sing but prefer to sit.
Each to their own but if you're in the north and prefer to be seated you're probably in the wrong stand IMO. Its only home to 10% of the stadium and there's plenty of options elsewhere. The new configured South stand could house those who want to sing but prefer to sit.
oneillco
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- Feb 13, 2013
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There will never be consistently good atmosphere from the NS because there are far too many punters seated in the wrong stand. Safe Standing would be the chance to have a re-shuffle and get like minded fans in the same place and hopefully all singing the same song.
I was wondering the same thing, and have come up with a possible explanation: it might impact them. Bear with me here.
It won’t be free to install the rails.
The money has to come from somewhere.
The choices are:
1. Accept lower profits/bigger losses - both these effectively mean Tony.
2. Reduce other costs: where? Lower player wages? Lower non-playing staff wages? Lower travel subsidy? There are a myriad of places to reduce costs - but I’d hazard a guess that very few would be appealing to fans and/or the club’s staff.
3. Increase revenue: where? Many sources of increased revenue require the agreement of a commercial third party - Amex sponsorship increases, Sky (et al) pay more for TV rights (other complexities here too). The easiest source of a relatively small (in the context of a £125m revenue business) increase in revenue is from the fan base. There are two obvious sources:
A) the ticket prices for safe standing go up. I note there’s a comment from a the club saying they won’t go down, but I’m not aware of any comment saying they won’t go up. This though, would be a recipe for a spectacular binfest. So, the easiest of all is…
B) the ticket prices of all tickets go up by a greater amount than they would have done if safe standing weren’t introduced. Those in non-safe standing areas subsidise those who are.
This is, imo, both a logical reason why someone who isn’t in an affected area might vote no, and also the most likely way the club would choose to recoup the cost.
It would be a small increase per ticket, and they clearly wouldn’t say that 0.2% (I’ve made the number up) of this year’s price increase on all tickets is to pay for safe standing. They’d say nothing.
FWIW: I’m in a non safe standing area and am perfectly happy for those that want it to have it, even if the price of my ticket does go up a bit.
Official Old Man
Uckfield Seagull
In theory, and by FA rules, all fans need to be seated. If someone in row H complains about someone in row F standing then row F have to sit.
As things stand (no pun intended) at any point we can all be made to sit down due to we’re in an all seater stand. Installation of safe standing negates that, however unlikely possibility. If you stand anyway vote for safe standing. If you sit or prefer sitting vote no safe standing, it’s not rocket science.
oneillco
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- Feb 13, 2013
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No it's not a pointless question and your comment about people standing anyway has been made 500 times before whenever this subject gets raised and misses the point. The point is that creating a safe-standing zone would be a chance to reset the North Stand which has never taken-off as a proper home end. Those who want to stand and sing can elect for a season ticket in the standing zone and congregate in one area instead of being spread across the NS interspersed by grannies, grandads and little kids. This would be separate from the NS seated areas where less passionate punters can sit and grumble about Webster.
You can only stand in your designed spot. Unless those who want to stand and sign all buy seasons next to each other this will not be possible.
I vote
I sit elsewhere, leave it up to NSCers to decide.
I sit elsewhere, leave it up to NSCers to decide.
oneillco
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- Feb 13, 2013
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Yeah, and? When the season tickets go on sale for the safe-standing zone you agree with your mates where to buy them. Exactly what me and my mates did 11 years ago for WSU.
A group of mates is one thing, organizing all the people who want to sing is a bit different. It’s obviously not insurmountable though.
I’m probably not the best person to discuss this with, I find the concept of organised singing a bit odd
ewe2
Well-known member
They could then reuse the seats for the proposed north stand shelf.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
It’s the cheapest seats in the north, and many choose that area for that reason.
If you don’t sing you’re less passionate. Charming