jordanseagull
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- Feb 11, 2009
- 4,157
There’s no unfounded accusation, there was a question that you’ve answered. I’d have thought supporting assassination would be worthy of a thread ban but it’s not my forum.
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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President Elect 2025
- Thread starter Zeberdi
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- Oct 12, 2022
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Where did 20 million Democrats go from 2020 to 2024.
Joe got 81 million votes
Kamala got 60?
I suspect that’s 20 million voters who had given Biden their vote, and felt poorer, or no wealthier, in 2024 than they had at the last election. Voters no longer believed they had the answer.
Biden/Harris needed inflation to have dropped faster, and wage growth to have been stronger (seemingly contradictory I know) for a Democrat win. I have a horrible feeling Labour may discover the same over here.
Nottseagull
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In that case, I'm wondering why you didn't refer to 'Thick White People'
nicko31
Well-known member
The US has had a strong economy and it sounds like the Dems failed to share the gains among the right people.
In the UK we have a weak economy, Labour have their work cut out. 1997 it ain't, its a 10-15 year re-build
It goes beyond "differing poltical views." I feel he is a real threat. And this is not about Harris.
I personally think the world would be a far better place if Putin, Trump plus a few others, did not exist on it. I have a good grasp of US culture; if he was shot dead then I'd offer my thoughts and prays and move on. That is how it works over there.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
I could have moved to Texas in 2007 ( UK operation shutdown) but fortunately didn’t. Of those that did go a lot of them are involved ( if FB is anything to go by) to one level or another in various churches.
Speaking to one chap who lives in another part of the US, he says that in the mid west and southern states if you want to have any ‘life’ you need to join a church. It’s greatly frowned upon not to be in a church. You can be ostracised for such a crime.
As an atheist, I dodged a bullet …..
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
This subject has been bubbling along on X since yesterday. There argument seems to be:
It was a high turnout election - not sure how this is measured, but
the total votes cast is something like 20m down, mostly on the Dem side
There are people in various states who voted early who are saying their votes are showing as 'Returned'
There is a story that the mail in vote data is 'not being recognized' but the by the election software.
Combine this with the fact that Trump went to great efforts to put his people into the election staff nationwide has generated a theory, but
Without any evidence it's just sounds like sour grapes.
Worth keeping an eye on.
RandyWanger
Je suis rôti de boeuf
They will.
nicko31
Well-known member
Spent a fair bit of time in the Mid-West, lovely people, very safe and actually a great place to raise kids. But very narrow view of the world and I trying getting a friggin beer in places
jordanseagull
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- Feb 11, 2009
- 4,157
Assassinating people you 'feel' are a real threat is the route forward? I guess we have a wildly different approach to what progress (and anti-fascism) looks like.
Need some help please. I don't speak German, can anyone confirm if this is a good thing?
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Where did 20 million Democrats go from 2020 to 2024.
Joe got 81 million votes
Kamala got 60?
Is it unreasonable to think they didn't like either candidate and so abstained?
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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Because in that specific post I was talking specifically about the demographic charts they keep referring to detailing the "non college-educated white male". That's why I'm talking about that exact demographic.
In the other post I was talking about Women for Trump considering his "history" with women in his life.
That ok?
Yes, I have a differing view to you...which brings us full-circle to your initial post.
Why not ? Loads of people get assassinated rather than just put in jail
No, you absolutely accused me of welcoming a post I'd never even seen.
ROSM
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Unless I missed it on here
This is the breakdown by demographic.
In short white male 45 to 64 is the key population (and indeed it filters more into 50 to 64) were the major trump voters
It seems every other major demographic split except
- males 20 to 30
- non degree level education
voted against trump
Independents split marginally toward Democrat. More Republicans voted Democrat than Democrats voted republican.
The black vote aligns in 24 to what it did in 20
However what this does show is that there wasn't enough of them across the pro dem splits. Either harris didn't get her vote out or for some other reason they couldn't vote
www.nbcnews.com
This is the breakdown by demographic.
In short white male 45 to 64 is the key population (and indeed it filters more into 50 to 64) were the major trump voters
It seems every other major demographic split except
- males 20 to 30
- non degree level education
voted against trump
Independents split marginally toward Democrat. More Republicans voted Democrat than Democrats voted republican.
The black vote aligns in 24 to what it did in 20
However what this does show is that there wasn't enough of them across the pro dem splits. Either harris didn't get her vote out or for some other reason they couldn't vote
National Exit Polls: Election 2024 Results
Follow exit polls from the 2024 general election. Explore key insights, voter demographics and trends that may shape the outcomes of key 2024 election races.
www.nbcnews.com
- Jul 10, 2003
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I'm sorry, but if someone chooses to vote against their own interests because someone has lied to them, how is that anyone's responsibility but their own
And for completeness, I am aware that a small percentage of people who voted Trump, Johnson and Brexit will and did benefit significantly, and I can fully understand why they did it, even if I don't agree with stitching up your own nation for personal gain.
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