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jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
14,579
The Boy and the Heron - Netflix
BAFTA Best Animated Picture
Golden Globe Best Animated Picture
Academy Aware Best Animated Picture
7.4 IMDB, 97% Rotten Tomatoes

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Here be spoilers for “The Boy and the Heron”:

This was absolutely batshit. I mean completely mental.

I am no anime fan, I generally find it weird. But I can abide controlled weirdness, particularly when it’s wholesome and not overly sexualised like so many animes are. I really like My Neighbour Totoro, for instance.

But The Boy and the Heron… this was absolutely fruit loops.

This movie, legendary auteur Hayao Miyazaki’s swan song, went like billy-o at the box office, becoming the fifth biggest grossing Japanese blockbuster of all time.

No denying it’s a beautiful movie, and Joe Hisaishi’s score is happily predictably superb. But the plot…?! Even for Studio Ghibli (the East’s Disney, for those who aren’t familiar) this one fell asleep on the District Line and woke up in Barking.

It would be easy - and lazy - to say that as with most Ghibli movies, it centres around a young child transporting from their regular lives into a magical uncanny valley, meeting a magical creature, and then having a very gentle adventure.

While the above is true, and many of these recurring tropes are in play - among others such as exploring animism and a clear love of “the old ways” and tradition - The Boy and the Heron is a good deal more heavy and unsettling than the likes of Totoro.

On the surface, the story introduces the stock Anime protagonist child, Mahito. Rather than brimming with whimsy and curiosity, Mahito is an angry, traumatised shell of a boy grieving over the gruesome immolation of his mother during the Second World War. He is then evacuated with his father from Tokyo to the countryside with his father and his new wife, his late wife’s pregnant(!) identical sister.

After a quick bit of self-harm, as he gratuitously smashes his own head in with a rock, he meets a creepy semi-anthropomorphic talking heron, who leads him into a cave on promises of seeing his dead mum again.

He is tricked, and goes off for a standard Studio Ghibli® brand adventure.

This is an incredibly dark movie in themes, and much like Disney’s “Up” isn’t really about the surface plot - the titular talking heron. Neither is it about the wannabe Witch King of Angmar antagonist, or the crazy hijinx that occur throughout the second hour. This movie is about trauma, grieving and PTSD.

But in the end
it turns out it was all a hallucination from his head injury with the rock anyway, giving us a cop-out surface happy ending, in a movie which is anything but
.

In short, despite critical, commercial and audience success, I really didn’t get this movie. It’s so overwrought with heavy symbolism and metaphor and yes, is really, really weird. There isn’t a lot of humour (I found the comedy relief of the servants/maids in the household irritating rather than amusing).

I just don’t get who it’s for, mostly. The adventure portion in the second half of the film is fairly stock Ghibli stuff ideal for kids, the first half is decidedly creepy and I wouldn’t recommend it to younger children, giving it a very strange feeling of being both confused and confusing.

I mostly watched the English dub which is packed with stars such as Christian Bale, Robert Pattinson, Mark Hamill, Willem Dafoe, Florence Pugh and Dave Bautista. The acting is fine, I suppose, but I tried the Japanese dub and that was just as good to my ears.

2*
 




dolphins

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
5,667
BN1, in GOSBTS
Back from seeing Speak No Evil with a Dolphin Jr. Bizarrely, there was ONLY us two in the screening!

Anyway... we both thoroughly enjoyed this thriller (horror?) which had a superb performance from James McAvoy who clearly seemed to be having a whale of a time with his role. An American family (husband, wife and daughter) who are living in London due to work meets up with McAvoy's British family (which includes a son who is unable to speak) on holiday in Rome. They hit it off and McAvoy invites them to stay with them in their West Country home. Cue awkwardness which initially is played off as a bit of an American/British different standards type of thing, guests in someone else's home reacting to things, that sort of thing, before things start to be understood and revealed.

It's a remake of a 2022 Danish film, but has its own special twists and turns, and is definitely recommended...
 


The Lemming Stomper

Under the flag
Apr 1, 2007
2,741
Saltdean
The new Salems Lot was very good, unlike the reviews which were unfavourable as many reviewers thought It needed longer ( the 70's mini-series good for a longer watch )

It needed the 'floaty boy' imo not to be a dud, and remind me of shitting the bed watching in 1979, and it didn't disappoint
 








Oscar

Well-known member
Nov 10, 2003
3,864
Odeon Brighton is shut down for a month due to some kind of emergency repairs. Not surprised judging by the state of the outside of the place.

Due to open again mid-November. No news on what they're doing about those on Limitless.
 


herecomesaregular

We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Oct 27, 2008
4,656
Still in Brighton
Odeon Brighton is shut down for a month due to some kind of emergency repairs. Not surprised judging by the state of the outside of the place.

Due to open again mid-November. No news on what they're doing about those on Limitless.
Thanks for the heads up, looks to be reopening with Gladiator 2.
 


jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
14,579
Odeon Brighton is shut down for a month due to some kind of emergency repairs. Not surprised judging by the state of the outside of the place.

Due to open again mid-November. No news on what they're doing about those on Limitless.
Shit cinema mind. I go to the Cineworld in Eastbourne Beacon (Arndale Centre) and it’s magnificent
 




dolphins

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
5,667
BN1, in GOSBTS
Saw Smile 2 yesterday and can see why Kermode was raving about it. Extremely well done horror film and special mention must be made for the incredible job Naomi Scott does in the hefty lead role in the movie.

Definitely not a film for everyone - especially in the cinema with the much louder sound than most of us would ever have at home - but if you like horrors, it's a good 'un!
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,110


keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,972
Really enjoyed Wild Robot with Small Keaton. I honestly think it will be regarded as family classic in the future. Balances the appeal for kids and grown ups brilliantly and all the grown ups left with something in their eye (apart from one otherNSCer)
 




Jul 20, 2003
20,698
The first 40minutes or so of this year's remake of 'The Crow' is shit and boring. Don't know what the rest of it is like, I will probably never feel like finding out.
 








jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
14,579
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Crosspost.

Anyone seen this?

Might go and see this at the cinema in the next few days. Those are pretty phenomenal IMDB and critic scores for a horror movie, which usually average around 50% and 5.0 on IMDB. (Because they’re mostly cheap, badly acted shite).
 


dolphins

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
5,667
BN1, in GOSBTS
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Crosspost.

Anyone seen this?

Might go and see this at the cinema in the next few days. Those are pretty phenomenal IMDB and critic scores for a horror movie, which usually average around 50% and 5.0 on IMDB. (Because they’re mostly cheap, badly acted shite).
Not seen it yet - off to NYC tomorrow for a week so will catch it once back. HG looks like he was having fun making the film, going by the trailer. There's a facial expression he pulls which does make me smile each time I see it!
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,488
Sussex by the Sea


dolphins

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
5,667
BN1, in GOSBTS
View attachment 191579

Crosspost.

Anyone seen this?

Might go and see this at the cinema in the next few days. Those are pretty phenomenal IMDB and critic scores for a horror movie, which usually average around 50% and 5.0 on IMDB. (Because they’re mostly cheap, badly acted shite).
Saw it yesterday - superb. HG clearly having an absolute BALL playing the part of Reed. The two female missionaries play their parts very well, and I'd edge towards calling it more a thriller with some occasional violent scenes. I'm finding that more often these days that thrillers are being called horrors, when they don't necessarily fit into the classic definitions.
 




jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
14,579
Saw it yesterday - superb. HG clearly having an absolute BALL playing the part of Reed. The two female missionaries play their parts very well, and I'd edge towards calling it more a thriller with some occasional violent scenes. I'm finding that more often these days that thrillers are being called horrors, when they don't necessarily fit into the classic definitions.
Thank you - it’s top of my list to watch it arrives to rent on stream.
 


Barry Izbak

U.T.A.
Dec 7, 2005
7,423
Lancing By Sea
Denzil Washington is probably my favourite actor. But how he got cast in GLADIATOR II is absolutely beyond me.

Then again the casting director also thought Matt Lucas and Tim McIneney were also the best actors for their roles. Baffling.

That said, I enjoyed the film. The story worked, the bloody content was very realistic and certainly added to the spectacle. It was a good film to see on the big screen and won't be anywhere near so good on your TV.

8/10 for me

We happened to watch the credits at the end.
I'll be interested to see if "Hairdresser to Mr Washington" picks up a gong. (He hasn't got any hair)
 


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