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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President Elect 2025

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 174 42.0%

  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.4%

  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%
  • Total voters
    414
  • This poll will close: .


peterward

peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
12,378
Kalimantan Gull said:
A swing from 5-0 Biden in 2020. Harris is doomed!
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I read that too, but you could argue that both ways, i also read that of those 5 voters in 2020 2 elderly have since died and 3 new people moved in since 2020.

Also they were 6-0 in support of Haley in primary, so other twist is that's also a Haley supporter second preference split 50/50.

Interesting, but don't think anything yet can be read into it definitively!
 






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Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,742
Faversham
Giraffe said:
I hope Trump wins. He will out Russia/Ukraine rather than escalating things which is in all our interests. No coincidence that this didn't happen under his watch.
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You're mad. He will abandon Ukraine to the Russians, and give Bibi cart blanche to kill who he wants in the middle east.

Plus he's a vile piece of misogynist lying shit.

You voted for Farage in the summer did you not?

Strange man. :shrug:
 




pb21

pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,732
Odds moving in Trump's favour...

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nicko31

nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,712
Gods country fortnightly
Giraffe said:
I hope Trump wins. He will out Russia/Ukraine rather than escalating things which is in all our interests. No coincidence that this didn't happen under his watch.
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How would you feel if Russia invaded the UK and the US said, listen guys just give Russia Essex, Kent and Sussex
 


Triggaaar

Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,632
Goldstone
dwayne said:
Yer its nonsense. It's discussed further back in this thread but military experts have already predicted trump wants an end to the war.
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We answered this silly point of yours and you've ignored it. A Trump end to war is simply giving Ukraine to Russia. That's no more an end than when France surrendered to Germany.

dwayne said:
Also why did Putin wait until trump was out of office to invade Ukraine !!
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He didn't wait for Trump. If he was waiting he could have invaded in 21. He invaded when he was ready.
 
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ROSM

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Dec 26, 2005
6,871
Just far enough away from LDC
Harry Wilson's tackle said:
You're mad. He will abandon Ukraine to the Russians, and give Bibi cart blanche to kill who he wants in the middle east.

Plus he's a vile piece of misogynist lying shit.

You voted for Farage in the summer did you not?

Strange man. :shrug:
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What I find more worrying is that this comment you are responding to was made less than 6 after posts after responses to a similar point made only on the page before.
 












dwayne

dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,322
London
The Republicans are entering election day with a historic lead in a majority of states, figures show.

This is the first time that registered Republicans have outvoted registered Democrats in more states since at least 2008, with early voting traditionally favoured by Democrats.

Across two-thirds of states that produce early voting data by party, registered Republicans outperformed the Democrats in votes cast.

Don't know if meaningful but interesting.
 




beorhthelm

beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,065
Triggaaar said:
Trump could stop sending weapons to Ukraine, Putin could consolidate the land he has and prepare to take the rest. China could take that as an invitation to take Taiwan. That's the start.
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was expecting something more concreate, that's rather vague speculation. US could continue subbing the arms industry as is very popular, sending arms to Ukraine. Putin could be stuck in stalemate for years, China could continue decades of sabre rattling at Taiwan knowing it's not good for trade to invade. the people around Trump are supposedly isolationist or at least US interests first, not interested in pro-Russia, pro-Putin policy, more likely seeing them still as the old enemy of the US. likewise China is seen as a threat, not a nation to give into.
 




Kalimantan Gull

Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
13,586
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peterward said:
I read that too, but you could argue that both ways, i also read that of those 5 voters in 2020 2 elderly have since died and 3 new people moved in since 2020.

Also they were 6-0 in support of Haley in primary, so other twist is that's also a Haley supporter second preference split 50/50.

Interesting, but don't think anything yet can be read into it definitively!
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Nonsense, I think we should extrapolate the whole election based on the votes of 6 elderly folks living in a ski resort near Canada!
 


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ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,871
Just far enough away from LDC
dwayne said:
The Republicans are entering election day with a historic lead in a majority of states, figures show.

This is the first time that registered Republicans have outvoted registered Democrats in more states since at least 2008, with early voting traditionally favoured by Democrats.

Across two-thirds of states that produce early voting data by party, registered Republicans outperformed the Democrats in votes cast.

Don't know if meaningful but interesting.
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It could be meaningful. What will be key is how

A) independents split
B) do Republicans vote trump (can assume they do)
C) given Republicans were told by trump last two times not to vote by mail. This time they were told by trump to use mail in votes. Does it mean a deflated Democrat turnout or just more Republicans voting early?
 


Bold Seagull

Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,513
Hove
dwayne said:
The Republicans are entering election day with a historic lead in a majority of states, figures show.

This is the first time that registered Republicans have outvoted registered Democrats in more states since at least 2008, with early voting traditionally favoured by Democrats.

Across two-thirds of states that produce early voting data by party, registered Republicans outperformed the Democrats in votes cast.

Don't know if meaningful but interesting.
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Anyone got any good news!?
 


Insel affe

Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,497
Brighton factually.....
ROSM said:
It could be meaningful. What will be key is how

A) independents split
B) do Republicans vote trump (can assume they do)
C) given Republicans were told by trump last two times not to vote by mail. This time they were told by trump to use mail in votes. Does it mean a deflated Democrat turnout or just more Republicans voting early?
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I think it means America is fecked.....
 




Stato

Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
7,421
I'm a bit of a politics geek, always stay up for our general elections and generally the US ones too. I won't be watching any of this because I've come to the depressing belief that today's election will not be about watching democracy in action.

The fact that the Republicans chose a candidate who showed last time around that he would not accept the result, and that the events of January 6th 2021 did not scare them back from the brink suggests to me that further bloodshed is extremely likely to follow these results.

If Trump wins he has been clear on his plans for immigrants and the threat to women's health is obvious. If Trump loses, every effort will be made to change the result through state officials, congress and a supreme court that has shown itself repeatedly willing to put members' partisan beliefs above the rule of law. If attempts are unsuccessful, the judiciary will probably play the role of Mike Pence. There will be corruption, illegality, threats of violence and eventually, actual violence.

We're in the death throes of democratic capitalism. The latter has weakened the former to such an extent that it's become obvious that no election is going to halt the decline. It's the irrationality and abandonment of enlightenment values that is so terrifying. We are living through an age that history will see as an inexplicable return to the dark ages. A worldwide psychosis that seems to have been created by technology offering communication at a level that humankind did not have the wherewithall to control.

I'm out. I'll watch the Bake-off and go to bed with a book. I'd advise everyone to do similar. The fall out won't be tonight or tomorrow. It will go on for weeks at least.
 
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dwayne

dwayne

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
16,322
London
For those that fancy Harris you can get 13/8 at bet victor now. She is drifting heavily this morning.

US still asleep.
 


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