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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President Elect 2025

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 174 42.0%

  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.4%

  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%
  • Total voters
    414
  • This poll will close: .


nicko31

nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,711
Gods country fortnightly
US Seagull said:
Trump calling for executions, and yet it's the Democrat's "violent rhetoric" that is the problem

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Goes without says this is pretty irresponsible but the shock doesn't mean anything now, that ship has sailed. For Trump is just about keep Harris out of the headlines.

As for Cheney politically I agree with very little but she is fearless and has guts putting democracy over self progression in the party.
 




peterward

peterward

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NSC Patron
Nov 11, 2009
12,378
Another test of the corrupt supreme court later today. Republicans have taken a legal action straight to supreme court to have ballots blocked/invalidated in Pennsylvania.

Pennsyalvania state election law allows the election commision to contact someone who has made a mistake on a mail in ballot, like missing putting the date or missing a box etc, to be contacted then to come in on election day and correct the mistake.

The Democrats are saying the state election law should remain and people from both sides who may have made a clerical mistake should be allowed to come in and correct it, unsurprisingly the Republicans have taken this to supreme court to have all such votes struck off and invalidated.

You can bet your bottom dollar in a state who had majority of Republican mail in ballots no such frivelous lawsuit would be taken straight to supreme court.

Over to the MAGA supreme court who will rule later today
 


Zeberdi

Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
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Oct 20, 2022
7,271
nicko31 said:
Goes without says this is pretty irresponsible but the shock doesn't mean anything now, that ship has sailed. For Trump is just about keep Harris out of the headlines.

As for Cheney politically I agree with very little but she is fearless and has guts putting democracy over self progression in the party.
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www.c-span.org

Rep. Liz Cheney Calls Former President Trump a Domestic Threat

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): "We are also confronting a domestic threat that we have never faced before; a former president who's attempting to unravel the foundations of our Constitutional Republic aided by political leaders who have made themselves willing hostages to this dangerous & irrational...
www.c-span.org www.c-span.org

She has at least integrity and respect for the rule of law.
 








Withdean South Stand

Withdean South Stand

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Mar 2, 2014
648
peterward said:
Another test of the corrupt supreme court later today. Republicans have taken a legal action straight to supreme court to have ballots blocked/invalidated in Pennsylvania.

Pennsyalvania state election law allows the election commision to contact someone who has made a mistake on a mail in ballot, like missing putting the date or missing a box etc, to be contacted then to come in on election day and correct the mistake.

The Democrats are saying the state election law should remain and people from both sides who may have made a clerical mistake should be allowed to come in and correct it, unsurprisingly the Republicans have taken this to supreme court to have all such votes struck off and invalidated.

You can bet your bottom dollar in a state who had majority of Republican mail in ballots no such frivelous lawsuit would be taken straight to supreme court.

Over to the MAGA supreme court who will rule later today
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How does that kind of case even get to the Supreme Court? Forgive me, but I've forgotten the case which was bounced by the Supreme Court for "not having standing". I'd be curious to understand why this case can be escalated to them and the case I'm thinking of could not be.
 








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Bodian

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May 3, 2012
14,707
Cumbria
Crawley Dingo said:
I called her a diversity hire, that was the point. Point stands.
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Why does your point stand? What actual evidence do you have that actually shows that she was hired purely to fulfil a diversity quota, or give the impression of diversity rather than based on their qualifications or skills? Or are you saying that simply because she is not a white male, she must therefore have been solely a diversity hire?
 


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Bodian

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May 3, 2012
14,707
Cumbria
Crawley Dingo said:
The cheating has started,



Not only that but the misspelling of Trumps name on ballots, California not putting trump on the first page, Georgia finding a bundle of ballots where all have the same signature..
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They couldn't replicate it though - and her ballot was correct.

www.yahoo.com

Laurel Co. pulls ballot-marking machine after viral video claims Trump vote went to Harris

The county clerk says his office could not re-create the alleged glitch, but the attorney general will investigate the machine.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

Did you see the one where they were complaining that Trump was 'too far down' the list of candidates and therefore that was somehow cheating as well because voters had to look for his name rather than having it immediately visible near the top (it was in alphabetical order).
 






Zeberdi

Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
7,271
Withdean South Stand said:
How does that kind of case even get to the Supreme Court? Forgive me, but I've forgotten the case which was bounced by the Supreme Court for "not having standing". I'd be curious to understand why this case can be escalated to them and the case I'm thinking of could not be.
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It’s an ongoing issue in Pennsylvania and it hasn’t gone ‘straight to the court’ in the sense of missing out lower courts, it was raised again by the Appellate Court on Wednesday and the Supreme Court of Penn already ruled in 2022 that voters can make a provisional vote on election day then mail back their amended ballot.

Trump lawyers have gone ‘straight’ to the Court in the sense of getting a declaration on the decision made in 2022 as soon as the incorrectly completed ballots came to light.


www.nbcnews.com

Thousands of ballots are at stake as the Supreme Court considers Pennsylvania voting rules

Mail ballots with issues that prevent them from being counted could number in the thousands in this election.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 


Zeberdi

Zeberdi

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Oct 20, 2022
7,271
peterward said:
Are we about to find out?
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It’s fascinating all this stuff coming out about Epstein -

www.newsweek.com

Donald Trump-Jeffrey Epstein allegations by Michael Wolff: Five takeaways

The journalist and author spoke about the relationship between Trump and Epstein on his "Fire and Fury" podcast.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

Wolfe got much of his background about what was going on inside the WH from conversations with Epstein which formed the basis of his book Fire and Fury - I bought this when it came out in 2019 in the run up to the 2020 election and started reading it again recently.

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Unfortunately, it is no longer available on Amazon but may be available on audio. I would recommend the read - but bits of it by Wolfe’s own admission couldn’t be verified by 3rd parties although the context was there.
 






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5Ways Gull

È quello che è
Feb 2, 2009
1,238
Fiveways, Brighton
nicko31 said:
Goes without says this is pretty irresponsible but the shock doesn't mean anything now, that ship has sailed. For Trump is just about keep Harris out of the headlines.

As for Cheney politically I agree with very little but she is fearless and has guts putting democracy over self progression in the party.
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I mean if he wants to execute her then...f*ck me I just don't know. I genuinely didn't think he could do anything to surprise me any more.
 


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raymondo

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2017
7,665
Wiltshire
Withdean South Stand said:
There must be some consequence for this, surely? Whether it's a warning from the Po-Po or a public smack down from the Secret Service, there has to be something said. It's unbelievable how you've got worms like McConnell and Johnson "uniting" to criticise the "rhetoric" from Kamala Harris when Drumpf is spewing that sort of hateful nonsense. The man is absolute garbage.
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And lots of the audience laugh at Trump's words - they are all garbage.
 


carlzeiss

carlzeiss

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May 19, 2009
6,274
Amazonia
Crawley Dingo said:
I called her a diversity hire, that was the point. Point stands.
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From the great man himself





Former Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday that when picking a running mate, he would prefer someone who was “of color and/or a different gender.”


“Whomever I pick, preferably it will be someone who was of color and/or a different gender, but I’m not making that commitment until I know that the person I’m dealing with I can completely and thoroughly trust as authentic and on the same page [as me],” Biden said while speaking to a roundtable of black journalists.
 


Triggaaar

Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
53,629
Goldstone




Withdean South Stand

Withdean South Stand

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Mar 2, 2014
648
Has there ever been a VP with more pre-VP experience than Kamala Harris? Her CV is absolutely incredible. The slightly clumsy way young Joe spoke about wanting a VP who was non-White and female has been exaggerated for effect by the willfully ignorant right but the fact remains that Kamala Harris the individual, rather than the caricature, is incredibly qualified for that role. She will be an excellent president, even more so if she has a functioning Senate and House of Representatives.

Of course though, should the worst happen, we know that Trump/Republicans believe the VP can do whatever they want when it comes to certifying the election result. And the sitting president can do whatever they want...
 


Crawley Dingo

Crawley Dingo

Political thread tourist.
Mar 31, 2022
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Bodian said:
Why does your point stand? What actual evidence do you have that actually shows that she was hired purely to fulfil a diversity quota, or give the impression of diversity rather than based on their qualifications or skills? Or are you saying that simply because she is not a white male, she must therefore have been solely a diversity hire?
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I have posted it
 


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