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SeagullinExile

SeagullinExile

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SeagullinExile

SeagullinExile

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Chicken Run said:
Are you allowed to be an MP With a criminal record do you know?
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If you are convicted and sentenced to a year or more in prison your are banned from serving as an MP.
 
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Right Brain Ronnie

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Honesty, I find no joy kicking anyone when they are in the gutter, let's face it Labour MPs don't see it that way and let's face it Labour are screwing everything so badly that it's even cruel to debate this with anyone.
The really bad bi product of this huge walking disaster of a government is they will f?CK us like it has never been done before.
What have the 34% done.😞
 








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nevergoagain

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Bodian said:
Voted in some adults.
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clapham_gull

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Right Brain Ronnie said:
Can you really be happy with the performance of labour in office this term?
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I've never been happy with the performance of a Government, but we are just about to see a role reversible.

The Tories are just about to vote their version of Corbyn in. Popular with the members, unelectable with the wider public.

So I'd buckle down for the next few years, Labour can get a loss worse yet before the Tories get a sniff.

Their priority at the moment is to nullify Reform.
 


Right Brain Ronnie

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clapham_gull said:
I've never been happy with the performance of a Government, but we are just about to see a role reversible.

The Tories are just about to vote their version of Corbyn in. Popular with the members, unelectable with the wider public.

So I'd buckle down for the next few years, Labour can get a loss worse yet before the Tories get a sniff.

Their priority at the moment is to nullify Reform.
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I honestly don't think they will nullify reform.

I have noticed how Starmer and Co, keep levering the REFORM word in all their interviews etc. it's no mistake, I agree they are trying to be the working man's party, but I can't see anyone buying it.
 


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Lying Hunt all along ?
 
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clapham_gull

clapham_gull

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Right Brain Ronnie said:
I honestly don't think they will nullify reform.

I have noticed how Starmer and Co, keep levering the REFORM word in all their interviews etc. it's no mistake, I agree they are trying to be the working man's party, but I can't see anyone buying it.
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No it's the Tories trying to nullify Reform because Brexit split the party down the middle. That's their main objective now. Firstly they need to appear like them.
 




BadFish

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Right Brain Ronnie said:
Honesty, I find no joy kicking anyone when they are in the gutter, let's face it Labour MPs don't see it that way and let's face it Labour are screwing everything so badly that it's even cruel to debate this with anyone.
The really bad bi product of this huge walking disaster of a government is they will f?CK us like it has never been done before.
What have the 34% done.😞
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The last government f***ed you all pretty hard.

Maybe at least this on will use lube.
 




Right Brain Ronnie

Right Brain Ronnie

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BadFish said:
The last government f***ed you all pretty hard.

Maybe at least this on will use lube.
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Well Reeves didn't dish out any lube today, I think she dished out grinding paste, and by no mistake, and it was course paste at that.
I can't see how her and Starmer can sit on that bench laughing like clueless classless dummies, as the trade unions and lord Ali pull their puppet strings.

Can you seriously say you are happy with the loose cannons of doom in charge for the next 5 years?
 




BadFish

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Right Brain Ronnie said:
Well Reeves didn't dish out any lube today, I think she dished out grinding paste, and by no mistake, and it was course paste at that.
I can't see how her and Starmer can sit on that bench laughing like clueless classless dummies, as the trade unions and lord Ali pull their puppet strings.

Can you seriously say you are happy with the loose cannons of doom in charge for the next 5 years?
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To be honest I don't live there so it doesn't really effect me but from what I see the poor governments you lot endure is down to the fact that you accept the shit, possibly even encourage it by voting them in again despite them shafting you.

Why do you give shit governments such long turns in f***ing you? I will never understand.

Some posh twat tells you that they won't spend any money on the shit you need because some other greedy posh twats they went to school with f***ed the economy. Do say no f*** you, and vote them out at the first opportunity?

No you thank them and sign up for more of it. You literally have the power to stop them f***ing you and you sign up for more. Then they decide they can do whatever they want and they use the fact that services are f***ed (because they told you they weren't going to fund them) and blame the largest single market on the planet, the same single market that their chums have been targeting for years.

Do you then tell them to take a running jump? No you vote them in again and vote to leave the market too. Throwing more sand in the lube.

Now when that government somehos found your bar so f***ing low it is on the ground you complain in wonderment that the twats you chose to replace them are a a bit shit.

What a situation you lot have got yourselves into. IMHO it is not an easy or quick fix but it needs the electorate to raise that bar, have higher expectations and stop adding sand to the grinding paste and then helping your governments apply it.

After everything they did for 14 years. 6.5 million of you still voted Tory. That kind of loyalty is imo exactly why you are in the situation you are in. Tugging your forlocks and begging for more sand as they keep going. And we think that Trump has cult like followers.

I have learned (too late) that dogmatic loyalty to your chosen party only serves them. f*** em, make them accountable and make them work for your vote instead of giving it to them no matter what they do.
 
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Well now the dust has settled somewhat that's a huge tax filled budget for what seems very little gain which has gone to really upset large pockets of people.

  • National Insurance/Minimum Wage - Will undoubtedly affect small/medium business negatively and ultimately their employees which the Wicked Witch has now admitted.
  • Inheritance on Agriculture - Much like the WFP it's been done for the right reasons but will really hurt those true farming families. Poorly thought out, let's hope they can sort it out or we will see a lot fewer farms out there long term.
  • Private Jet tax - I don't know why this was even announced, let alone the way it was. Just done for a soundbite against the rich and a dig at Rishi. Have they said how much this will bring in ?.
  • Vape Tax - One that I do applaud and is needed. if only they would appoint a corruption Tsar to look at these shops along with the Turkish barbers, nail salons etc. as it's so obviously a front.
  • Stamp Duty - Build build build says Rayner but you'll all pay way more if you buy says Reeves.
  • Changing the definition of government debt to allow you to build more is just a fancy way of changing the fiscal rules which they said they wouldn't
  • Money for the Infected Blood Scandals and Post Office - It's disgraceful that the Tories didn't put anything in for this. No excuse for that.
  • £44bn tax increases, to cover what they said was a £22bn black hole. I thought everything was fully costed, fully funded in the manifesto ?.
  • All this and the IFS say they believe it will raise £9bn less than anticipated £25bn, OBR saying growth will be limited, the pound has fallen, we'll have even more national debt and interest rates will take longer to come back down. NICE!.
 




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nevergoagain said:
Well now the dust has settled somewhat that's a huge tax filled budget for what seems very little gain which has gone to really upset large pockets of people.

  • National Insurance/Minimum Wage - Will undoubtedly affect small/medium business negatively and ultimately their employees which the Wicked Witch has now admitted.
  • Inheritance on Agriculture - Much like the WFP it's been done for the right reasons but will really hurt those true farming families. Poorly thought out, let's hope they can sort it out or we will see a lot fewer farms out there long term.
  • Private Jet tax - I don't know why this was even announced, let alone the way it was. Just done for a soundbite against the rich and a dig at Rishi. Have they said how much this will bring in ?.
  • Vape Tax - One that I do applaud and is needed. if only they would appoint a corruption Tsar to look at these shops along with the Turkish barbers, nail salons etc. as it's so obviously a front.
  • Stamp Duty - Build build build says Rayner but you'll all pay way more if you buy says Reeves.
  • Changing the definition of government debt to allow you to build more is just a fancy way of changing the fiscal rules which they said they wouldn't
  • Money for the Infected Blood Scandals and Post Office - It's disgraceful that the Tories didn't put anything in for this. No excuse for that.
  • £44bn tax increases, to cover what they said was a £22bn black hole. I thought everything was fully costed, fully funded in the manifesto ?.
  • All this and the IFS say they believe it will raise £9bn less than anticipated £25bn, OBR saying growth will be limited, the pound has fallen, we'll have even more national debt and interest rates will take longer to come back down. NICE!.
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What’s disgraceful re the Govt funding compo for the victims of the post office is that there is no indication those that were involved in the scandal and who continued to perpetuate it once exposed are not (as far as I can understand) being pursued for money?

Making to public cough up is another slap in the face when you have individuals who should be sacrificing generous pension funds, and entities like Fujitsu who should be fined. Or is this just another example of a two tier system between the public and private sector, whereby individuals and entities are liable for misconduct.
 


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nevergoagain

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cunning fergus said:
What’s disgraceful re the Govt funding compo for the victims of the post office is that there is no indication those that were involved in the scandal and who continued to perpetuate it once exposed are not (as far as I can understand) being pursued for money?

Making to public cough up is another slap in the face when you have individuals who should be sacrificing generous pension funds, and entities like Fujitsu who should be fined. Or is this just another example of a two tier system between the public and private sector, whereby individuals and entities are liable for misconduct.
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To be fair, Post Office is public owned so ultimately the buck stops with them if there are compensation payments to be made. Fujitsu have I believe said they will pay towards it as well but no idea if they've put a figure on it. Totally agree that there are those individuals at the heart of things that need to face proper justice not just being stripped of awards.
 


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