BBassic
I changed this.
- Jul 28, 2011
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Kid Rock is a "musician".
He got popular around the time nu-metal was a thing.
I say this as a man who listens to Slipknot to this very day: you could not pay me to listen to Kid Rock.
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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*
- Thread starter Zeberdi
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Kid Rock is a "musician".
He got popular around the time nu-metal was a thing.
I say this as a man who listens to Slipknot to this very day: you could not pay me to listen to Kid Rock.
Crawley Dingo
Political thread tourist.
- Mar 31, 2022
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Most of that is either demonstratable false or highly questionable.
As none of you have been at all conciliatory, posting in bad faith or admitting errors there is F all chance that I am going to show any fealty even if you did have a credible case which you don't.
Go and pound sand.
The Washington Post has bottled out of endorsing either candidate. Strikes me that they are scared to endorse Harris in case Trump gets in and immediately wreaks vengeance on anyone who opposed him - as he has said he will do.
Bullying - pure and simple.
Bullying - pure and simple.
US Seagull
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This follows the LA Times doing the same. Both owned by billionaires that put the kibosh on their respective papers endorsing Harris. There was at least one resignation from the LA Times. WaPo is already attracting criticism.
^ A former WaPo editor
More: https://www.cjr.org/political_press...week-later-the-papers-publisher-killed-it.php
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That's related to two of the list that Dingo says is false or questionable!
US Seagull
Well-known member
Pure copium.
So are you saying if, say, Trump was a sexual abuser you would no longer support him? Or if he did actually commit fraud? Or if he had attempted a coup?
If, say, "hypothetically", any of those things were true, would you still support him?
Are you seriously trying to “both sides” the presidential election?
One is a slightly ropey media performer but with a track record of public office. The other wants to use the military to round up his political opponents.
If you genuinely think those are equally as bad then you’re not the impartial voice you claim to represent.
Come on then, what would Trump have to do to lose your support.
There must be a line, what is it?
- Oct 20, 2022
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I don’t know why this would surprise anyone. It’s all in Project 25 - it’s just a shame voters are too lazy to do the research. The full text of Project 25 is freely available online and has been posted upthread too.
As you say, Trump declared last year he would try and shut down any media that speaks out against him.
It’s what dictators do. Americans should be very worried.
He himself said he will govern as a “dictator” on “day one” should he win office again … seek retribution against the news media, showing no regard for the First Amendment protections afforded to the Fourth Estate.”
This article is really worth a read.
Trump and his allies are threatening retribution against the press. Their menacing words should not be ignored | CNN Business
The American press is facing, arguably, the gravest potential threat to its freedom in a generation.
amp.cnn.com
Just a few large bets funded by the likes of Putin.
Part of the future "evidence" that the election was "rigged". "The bookies all thought I'd win. Fight like hell". :rollseyes:
That implies balance and equivalence when there is none.
And you think the alternative is a better option??
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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BadFish
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If it's pro trump then agree, if it's anti, disagree.
The koolaid numbs any remaining traces of critical thinking.
Randy McNob
> > > > > > Cardiff > > > > >
- Jun 13, 2020
- 4,715
I think it's a brilliant move by the democrats which was planned from the beginning, a side step which has bamboozled the Trump camp.
Rather than 2 white old fogies who don't offer any real choice, now a younger, female woman of colour. Trump doesn't stand a chance
The real problem in America is that our primary process favors the extremes in both parties. This leaves a vacuum in the middle. There are no moderates to support. We used to have “Rockefeller Republicans” and “Blue Dog Democrats” that were fiscally to the right but more to the left on social issues. They are all but gone. Over half of Trump’s voters are not supporting him- they are voting against the left wing candidate. So many people “in the middle” are weary after years of inflation, porous borders, higher taxes, etc etc- they “hold their nose” and vote for Trump. I live in one of the few “purple states” - that reliably elects Democrats (blue states) and Republicans (red states) in the same election. I see cognitive dissonance on a daily basis… otherwise intelligent people “protesting” by voting against their own interests and/or ethics, morals, beliefs… it’s beyond comprehension. The untold story of this election is “how could a political party become so disengaged from the voters to lose to a convicted con man?” THAT needs to be honestly debated… without immediately falling into diatribes. It’s not the neo-nazi voters (all .000001%) it’s not the ignorant rednecks (10%) - it’s the 25% of the electorate that vote against the democrats no matter who is running. The left has absolutely enraged millions of educated Americans that are not nazis, racists, or dumb. It’s really worrisome how much anger is here in the US… sorry to ramble! Bourbon 
now safely in hand - cheers from North Carolina
now safely in hand - cheers from North Carolina