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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 155 39.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 218 55.3%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 18 4.6%

  • Total voters
    394
  • This poll will close: .






Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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Patience. 1 possibly 2 things still incoming....allegedly
I just can't see it, I'm afraid.

There are tens of millions of people who will vote for Trump despite there being a lengthy list of outrages, any one of which should stop any right-minded person voting for him.

These people are so entrenched in their support for him, each additional outrage only seems to further strengthen their resolve.
 


Fignon's Ponytail

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Jun 29, 2012
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On the Beach
I've lingered on this thread a while now as Im fascinated to see what happens in the build up to Nov 5, but I find it all so utterly depressing that we are still talking about that obnoxious oaf possibly getting his feet back under the desk at the WH. The world truly has gone mad.

A Trump supporter on ABC News FB page yesterday said that all Harris has is "name calling" against Trump (not seeing the irony at all that that is what he has done since his very first campaign), and that he is far more articulate than she is.

I despair & worry for America if he gets in again...a place I love, and call my 2nd home.
 


Hotchilidog

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Jan 24, 2009
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I just can't see it, I'm afraid.

There are tens of millions of people who will vote for Trump despite there being a lengthy list of outrages, any one of which should stop any right-minded person voting for him.

These people are so entrenched in their support for him, each additional outrage only seems to further strengthen their resolve.
I'd be surprised if anything actually emerges. I also agree that there is NOTHING that will deter true MAGA voters from turning on Trump.

That said there are independents, and a new raft of newly registered Gen-Z voters who weren't eligible to vote last time.

Like most people I am finding the polls depressing reading, yet somehow I am not believing them. I think the early voting favours Harris, I do think women voters will play a big part in this election, and I do think traditional Republicans will turn on Trump.

I may well regret posting this but I believe Harris will win the popular vote by a larger margin than Biden. It's a toss up as to there those votes will be in the right places because of the ludicrous and anti-democratic electoral college system. My gut feeling is Harris prevails on Nov 5th.
 






Klaas

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Nov 1, 2017
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peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
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I just can't see it, I'm afraid.

There are tens of millions of people who will vote for Trump despite there being a lengthy list of outrages, any one of which should stop any right-minded person voting for him.

These people are so entrenched in their support for him, each additional outrage only seems to further strengthen their resolve.
I agree with that in main. The cultists are brainwashed and beyond help, but you don't need them all en masse to switch votes.

It will come down to 7 to 10 swing states and maybe by small margins.

Just getting enough floating voters or independents in those states could be the difference.

IF..... said video appears.
 








A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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What could, though?

He's made of Teflon.
Probably the only thing that could kill his campaign is if he started treating minorities with respect
 




Change at Barnham

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Aug 6, 2011
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This is what horrifies me. There isn't a single bookie that doesn't make Trump odds on to win the election.

It is beyond belief that someone so corrupt and dishonest as Trump can get so many votes.
Until a few days ago I was seeing the polling figures that gave Harris the lead.

Let's pray the bookies have got it wrong.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election/winner
 


US Seagull

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Jul 17, 2003
4,554
Cleveland, OH
Probably the only thing that could kill his campaign is if he started treating minorities with respect
I'm kinda genuinely interested if there is a thing that could come out about Trump that would shake Dingo or Vegan enough that they would, at least, consider sitting out the election rather than voting for Trump? And not something silly like "he reveals that he was a Democrat all along and was looking to destroy the "G"OP from the inside.

Like, is there actually a line?

Clearly it's not multiple sexual assaults, fraud, grifting, throwing our allies under the bus, cozying up to dictators and enemies of the US, being a felon, attempting a coup, being clearly diminished mentally, ranting, hurling insults, dancing for thirty minutes, demonstrating a total lack of knowledge of the economy, killing a million people with his mishandling of covid, threatening to jail his opponents, silencing critics, disrespecting the military, dodging the draft, blatant racism, the incompetence, the incontinence, the lies, upon lies, upon more lies...

Is there anything that would shake their belief that Trump should be back in office?
 
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Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Patience. 1 possibly 2 things still incoming....allegedly
What are they waiting for? People are voting now!

I'm kinda genuinely interested if there is a thing that could come out about Trump that would shake Dingo or Vegan enough that they would, at least, consider sitting out the election rather than voting for Trump? And not something silly like "he reveals that he was a Democrat all along and was looking to destroy the "G"OP from the inside.

Like, is there actually a line?

Clearly it's not multiple sexual assaults, fraud, grifting, throwing our allies under the bus, cozying up to dictators and enemies of the US, being a felon, attempting a coup, being clearly diminished mentally, ranting, hurling insults, dancing for thirty minutes, demonstrating a total lack of knowledge of the economy, killing a million people with his mishandling of covid, threatening to jail his opponents, silencing critics, disrespecting the military, dodging the draft, blatant racism, the lies, upon lies, upon more lies...

Is there anything that would shake their belief that Trump should be back in office?
Not sure Dingo actually lives in the USA? So they won't be voting anyway.
 






US Seagull

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Jul 17, 2003
4,554
Cleveland, OH
These people are deeply, deeply, weird:


During the rally Carlson, who has three adult daughters, compared the US under Trump to a naughty girl being disciplined by her father. “If you allow your hormone-addled 15-year-old daughter to slam the door and give you the finger, you’re going to get more of it,” Carlson said. “There has to be a point at which Dad comes home.” At this point the crowd erupted into raucous cheers.

“Dad comes home and he’s pissed,” Carlson continues. “He’s not vengeful, he loves his children. Disobedient as they may be, he loves them … And when Dad gets home, you know what he says? You’ve been a bad girl. You’ve been a bad little girl and you’re getting a vigorous spanking right now. And no, it’s not going to hurt me more than it hurts you. No, it’s not. I’m not going to lie. It’s going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me. And you earned this. You’re getting a vigorous spanking because you’ve been a bad girl, and it has to be this way.”

 


Berty23

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Jun 26, 2012
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What are they waiting for? People are voting now!


Not sure Dingo actually lives in the USA? So they won't be voting anyway.
What are they waiting for? I expect we are talking threats to life if it as bad as people say and if someone releases it. If it is a company waiting then I expect they are getting fully lawyered up. Anyone publishing it is taking on a cult with some of the wealthiest people in the world back them and potentially some countries too! It is not a small thing to do.
 






Withdean South Stand

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Mar 2, 2014
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To release anything truly sensational, they will need to be absolutely 100% certain it's genuine. In reality, they can probably make more money taking hush-money payments not to release it so maybe that's what's really going on. One of the many Billionaire donors could be in the process of buying it to kill it because their interests are better served by Orange Jesus than it is by a president.
 




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