[News] Reparations

Randy McNob · Oct 24, 2024

Glad the issue of reparations is being discussed again at the Commonwealth summit. I want Britain to formally apologise for it's part in the slave trade and reach agreement with the colonised countries for reparation payments

Global calls for reparations are only growing louder. Why is Britain still digging in its heels? | Hilary Beckles

The issue is on all our minds at this week’s Commonwealth summit in Samoa. Now is Keir Starmer’s chance to address it, says Caricom Reparations Commission chair Hilary Beckles

www.theguardian.com

maltaseagull · Oct 24, 2024

Randy McNob said:
Glad the issue of reparations is being discussed again at the Commonwealth summit. I want Britain to formally apologise for it's part in the slave trade and reach agreement with the colonised countries for reparation payments

Global calls for reparations are only growing louder. Why is Britain still digging in its heels? | Hilary Beckles

The issue is on all our minds at this week’s Commonwealth summit in Samoa. Now is Keir Starmer’s chance to address it, says Caricom Reparations Commission chair Hilary Beckles

www.theguardian.com

Totally agree, as long as the African nations that sold their people are also held responsible and the Middle Eastern traders pay too.
Oh and Italy pays for the slaves and the Scandinavian countries pay for slaughter of Christians in England..
How far back do you want to go?

Professor Plum · Oct 24, 2024

Randy McNob said:
Glad the issue of reparations is being discussed again at the Commonwealth summit. I want Britain to formally apologise for it's part in the slave trade and reach agreement with the colonised countries for reparation payments

Global calls for reparations are only growing louder. Why is Britain still digging in its heels? | Hilary Beckles

The issue is on all our minds at this week’s Commonwealth summit in Samoa. Now is Keir Starmer’s chance to address it, says Caricom Reparations Commission chair Hilary Beckles

www.theguardian.com

Of course you do.

TugWilson · Oct 24, 2024

Randy McNob said:
Glad the issue of reparations is being discussed again at the Commonwealth summit. I want Britain to formally apologise for it's part in the slave trade and reach agreement with the colonised countries for reparation payments

Global calls for reparations are only growing louder. Why is Britain still digging in its heels? | Hilary Beckles

The issue is on all our minds at this week’s Commonwealth summit in Samoa. Now is Keir Starmer’s chance to address it, says Caricom Reparations Commission chair Hilary Beckles

www.theguardian.com

So long as the British sailors who fought and died to end the slave trade are compensated , and their families , and so on and on ad nauseum.........

Professor Plum · Oct 24, 2024

Hmm. A number of my relatives died in the Irish potato famine in the mid-19th century, largely due to the uncaring attitude of the British government. Surely that must be worth a few quid to me?

GT49er · Oct 24, 2024

Randy McNob said:
Glad the issue of reparations is being discussed again at the Commonwealth summit. I want Britain to formally apologise for it's part in the slave trade and reach agreement with the colonised countries for reparation payments

Global calls for reparations are only growing louder. Why is Britain still digging in its heels? | Hilary Beckles

The issue is on all our minds at this week’s Commonwealth summit in Samoa. Now is Keir Starmer’s chance to address it, says Caricom Reparations Commission chair Hilary Beckles

www.theguardian.com

Good old Grauniad - "Global opinion, however, has rallied around the idea" - you bet it has! Opportunistic people are sniffing money.
Excellent cross-party agreement happening here - well done both parties.

Triggaaar · Oct 24, 2024

maltaseagull said:
Totally agree, as long as the African nations that sold their people are also held responsible and the Middle Eastern traders pay too.
Oh and Italy pays for the slaves and the Scandinavian countries pay for slaughter of Christians in England..
How far back do you want to go?

TugWilson said:
So long as the British sailors who fought and died to end the slave trade are compensated , and their families , and so on and on ad nauseum.........

Exactly.

African slavery started before the British were involved and continued after the British stopped, and Britain played a key role in ending it.

People want to rewrite history.

PILTDOWN MAN · Oct 24, 2024

I hold no guilt for my father's actions let alone those of centuries past. Certainly do not want my taxes going that way.

A1X · Oct 24, 2024

I don’t see any issue with some sort of formal apology being given if that makes things better

But I think the idea that we have to pay for the sins our forefathers is not something we should be doing, why should someone in 2024 have to have their cancer treatment delayed because 250 years ago people were traded as slaves?

Harry Wilson's tackle · Oct 24, 2024

The OP is wrong.

Starmer is right.

Who knew?

Randy McNob · Oct 24, 2024

maltaseagull said:
Totally agree, as long as the African nations that sold their people are also held responsible and the Middle Eastern traders pay too.
Oh and Italy pays for the slaves and the Scandinavian countries pay for slaughter of Christians in England..
How far back do you want to go?

Missing the point a little, our country and Economy benefitted off slavery and should give back. Even today people are direct benefactors from slave plantations like this piece of filth:

:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...set-to-gain-3m-from-sale-of-former-plantation

TugWilson · Oct 24, 2024

A1X said:
I don’t see any issue with some sort of formal apology being given if that makes things better

But I think the idea that we have to pay for the sins our forefathers is not something we should be doing, why should someone in 2024 have to have their cancer treatment delayed because 250 years ago people were traded as slaves?

An apology would be considered an admission of guilt , since no one living today is qualified or indeed guilty of the crimes of centuries gone what exactly would they be apologising for ? .

Perhaps i should sue the Italians for plastic surgery for my nose :shrug:

Eeyore · Oct 24, 2024

I would like to apologise for having a cousin 4,000 times removed who may or may not have been involved in awful things in a distant land.

How about we DO pay some sort of reparation, but we decide how it is spent (independently audited to show it is not being used to our advantage) ? We could build some infrastructures, houses and sanitastion and health systems for people in poverty and ensure that those with their snouts in the trough get nowt. I'd be up for that.

Perhaps some of the African leaders might want to match that funding from their off shore accounts. Couldn't 'alf make some folks lives a lot better.

Sussax · Oct 24, 2024

TugWilson said:
An apology would be considered an admission of guilt , since no one living today is qualified or indeed guilty of the crimes of centuries gone what exactly would they be apologising for ? .

Perhaps i should sue the Italians for plastic surgery for my nose

Yes, and I’m going to track down the relative of the German who killed my great grandad in the war and ask for an apology.

It’s all hypocritical nonsense. Slavery has been around for thousands of years, almost (if not all) countries have had its peoples enslaved or owning them. The British (at great expense) policed the end of slavery amongst its colonies at the height of its power. Nothing further needs to be done.

drew · Oct 24, 2024

Isn't it blatantly obvious that this McNob character is just trolling NSC?

Poskettspurpose · Oct 24, 2024

Randy McNob said:
Glad the issue of reparations is being discussed again at the Commonwealth summit. I want Britain to formally apologise for it's part in the slave trade and reach agreement with the colonised countries for reparation payments

Global calls for reparations are only growing louder. Why is Britain still digging in its heels? | Hilary Beckles

The issue is on all our minds at this week’s Commonwealth summit in Samoa. Now is Keir Starmer’s chance to address it, says Caricom Reparations Commission chair Hilary Beckles

www.theguardian.com

I understand the point however executing this plan is really by in large impossible. Lets use as an example aid provided by the UK to African nations in famine over the years. Much of it is taken by despot militia and large sections of important resources never reach the people it is intended to help. Some of these country's face such huge problems with corruption and coercion of the poor and weak by the powerful that there would be no way of telling where the money would end up surely?

TugWilson · Oct 24, 2024

drew said:
Isn't it blatantly obvious that this McNob character is just trolling NSC?

Yes but it was bound to be broached at some point , better to get it out the way quick before Saturday so we can get back to talking about important stuff like FOOTY

Beach Hut · Oct 24, 2024

If we do we should also ask Germany to pay the majority of Europe a lot of compensation for all the issues they caused over the WW1 & 2

dsr-burnley · Oct 24, 2024

The idea of reaching agreement with the colonised nations is impossible. Let's face it, 200 years ago the UK freed the slaves throughout the Empire and spent fortunes not just stopping slavery in the Empire, but also stopping (contrary to international law!) the international slave trade. Lives and money were lost, apparently 1.8% of GDP over a 50 year period. Clearly that is not considered enough, and nor will the descendants (or presumed descendants) of slaves consider anything the UK does now, to be enough.

Anyway, compensation. Only 3 generations back, my great-grandfather had to start work at age 8, 6 full days a week, 72 hours a week, and only 2 days holiday a year. (Olny 1 if Christmas Day or Boxing Day fell on a Sunday.) By my reckoning he should have been paid (at minimum wage) £2,863,788.27 over his 67 year working life, and since he had few descendants a large chunk of that will come to me. Who do I claim from?

sparkie · Oct 24, 2024

Pensions down, taxes up, benefits slashed, NHS staff reductions, infrastructure left to rot etc etc.

Yes - let's make those sacrifices to pay the quoted £18 trillion for the sins of ancient history.

Vote winner. No party will go near it.

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