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ROSM

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I’m assuming B & H 1st’s were promoted back to Div 2 ?
They won div 3 east so believe that's straight promotion. Was a surprise that B&h had dropped from 2 last year but I believe they kept their squad together which will have helped them.
 




ROSM

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By coincidence, my Uber driver home this evening played for Rottingdean and was bemoaning their relegation. Interesting chat as we knew a few players in common - although he plays at a far higher level than I ever did.
Div 2 is an interesting standard. I was surprised at just how good it was. Prem players are county players on the fringe , ex county , overseas and players who could play county but have a decent main job. As a result div 2 has some fantastic talents inc players in the county set up such as @Fignon's Ponytail son. It's a tough one to think do you play those that got you there, go hell for leather for overseas or pre players on their way down.

My son is a way off that standard
 


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Bit random but did your brother (or another relative) end up with a batting average of 95 this season? I follow a few cricket accounts on Twitter and a tweet from York CC just ended up on my 'for you' feed with a familiar name from school on.
Ha, yes. That’s my older brother Matt.

The first of those two tons, was his first since 1995! He’s had a great year, after admittedly dropping a couple levels, in order the skipper their 4ths and mentor his youngest lad, in his first year of senior cricket.

 


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Ha, yes. That’s my older brother Matt.

The first of those two tons, was his first since 1995! He’s had a great year, after admittedly dropping a couple levels, in order the skipper their 4ths and mentor his youngest lad, in his first year of senior cricket.


I think you may have another brother, initial D, who I bowled to in a match in 1990.
 


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I was at our final game of the season in Mid-Sussex this weekend. But where was I ?

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Fignon's Ponytail

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I guess this thread will be dead for the next few months, but my lad arrived in Tamworth NSW today after a marathon journey taking in 3 plane journeys, via Taiwan, after leaving home at 4pm on Monday! He got picked up from the airport at 7.30 this morning (our time) and was taken straight to the afternoon training session to meet the team!
He has a few days to settle in, and then his first game is Oct 1-4 for the Northern Central Zone Colts, over on Central Coast. Basically the same as being selected for the Academy over here apparently, so players from all over the region are in the squad.
 
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Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Indoor season started for my lad today. His first time playing, in fact apart from their coach who captained the side none of the team had never played indoor cricket before. The rest of the team was made up of an 18 year old and 4 members of the U14s squad. Entered into an adults league and with just one short training session on Friday where I had to field to make up the numbers.

So for a very inexperienced team they played really well bowled their opponents out for 79 off 9.1 overs. They then got to the 80 with 1 wicket and 3 balls to spare, which looked very unlikely at the half way stage. The boy opened and only scored 5 but put on 21 for the first wicket while batting sensibly for him and not going to for his normal try and smash everything attack.

In other news they had their end of season awards last night and the boy took home Player of the Year for the U14s (he was the managers player of the year last season) and the Junior Clubman award for his attitude to cricket and his willingness to play, score, help out with coaching the U11s and generally wanting to be involved in anyway he can be. Very proud Dad as he struggles with socialising and communication due to his autism but cricket has really been a positive for him helping come out of his shell more and this season his passion for the game has been a delight to see.
 






Fignon's Ponytail

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After being thrown in at the deep end 2 days after he arrived in NSW with a 4 day U18 Colts carnival, Frankie made his debut for N. Tamworth 1st XI on Saturday. Scored a solid 21 off 32 balls, but bowled exceptionally well.

5.1 overs, 2 maidens, 5 runs, 2 wickets.

Hes fully settled into Aussie life now, and ran a 6hr training session for the youth sections of the club yesterday, and begins working for the Private School hes living at today, as the students are all back off half term break. Hes also the Head Coach of the U14s school team, so theres plenty of cricket for him this winter!

Collecting his cap for Central North Cricket U18s (L)

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Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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The boy played his second indoor game last night against our very local rivals (both clubs are based in the same town, and probably the favourites to win the whole thing.

In the end we lost by 28 runs but again our lads put up a good effort, restricting them to just 89 all out from 10.5 overs. Unfortunately only my lad (13) and our coach/captain (29) made any real runs so we were all out for 61 off 10.1 overs.

Quick question though concerning how my lad got out.

He was hit on the pads, big LBW appeal and he went to walk, took a couple of steps and then noticed the umpire had said no. One of the fielders then ran in with the ball in hand and took off the bails. Square Leg umpire gave him out. Now I personally think he’d got back into his crease before the bails were taken. My son was very philosophical about it as he said he was plum LBW and should have just walked anyway.

But my question is, considering it’s a friendly tournament and we are fielding a development team made up of 4 U14s an 18 year old and 1 adult captaining the side (they fielded a full adult team including their overseas player who wasn’t meant to play but we agreed to him playing), was it really in the spirit of the game to go for the run out like that? Would anyone else who plays have tried that in any game?
 






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The boy played his second indoor game last night against our very local rivals (both clubs are based in the same town, and probably the favourites to win the whole thing.

In the end we lost by 28 runs but again our lads put up a good effort, restricting them to just 89 all out from 10.5 overs. Unfortunately only my lad (13) and our coach/captain (29) made any real runs so we were all out for 61 off 10.1 overs.

Quick question though concerning how my lad got out.

He was hit on the pads, big LBW appeal and he went to walk, took a couple of steps and then noticed the umpire had said no. One of the fielders then ran in with the ball in hand and took off the bails. Square Leg umpire gave him out. Now I personally think he’d got back into his crease before the bails were taken. My son was very philosophical about it as he said he was plum LBW and should have just walked anyway.

But my question is, considering it’s a friendly tournament and we are fielding a development team made up of 4 U14s an 18 year old and 1 adult captaining the side (they fielded a full adult team including their overseas player who wasn’t meant to play but we agreed to him playing), was it really in the spirit of the game to go for the run out like that? Would anyone else who plays have tried that in any game?
Your lad sounds like a gentleman for walking on a LBW, i’ve never walked on those, massive thick edge or an obvious run out always but never for LBW, that’s for the guy behind the stumps at the other end to call 😉
 




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Quick question though concerning how my lad got out.

He was hit on the pads, big LBW appeal and he went to walk, took a couple of steps and then noticed the umpire had said no. One of the fielders then ran in with the ball in hand and took off the bails. Square Leg umpire gave him out. Now I personally think he’d got back into his crease before the bails were taken. My son was very philosophical about it as he said he was plum LBW and should have just walked anyway.

But my question is, considering it’s a friendly tournament and we are fielding a development team made up of 4 U14s an 18 year old and 1 adult captaining the side (they fielded a full adult team including their overseas player who wasn’t meant to play but we agreed to him playing), was it really in the spirit of the game to go for the run out like that? Would anyone else who plays have tried that in any game?
Never mind spirit of the game, there is a specific law covering this.

A batsman cannot be given out run out if he is out of his ground in the mistaken belief he is already out.

IIRC this happened to an England player in a test match in the Carribean years ago. Batter was bowled but did not see or hear the "no-ball", in heading for the pavilion, he was run out, but after some discussion between the umpires, was reprieved.

Doesn't happen very often. Slightly different circumstances happened to me in a game at Braypool back in the 80s. I clipped one off my hip and the ball went down to fine leg, as we completed the first run, I heard a fielder say "it's gone", so leisurely walked back to my crease, throw came in and keeper ran me out. Seems I was duped by a joker call from one of their players but their captain recalled the appeal as it was obvious I was not trying to run. Never forgotten it as I felt just a bit daft ... lesson learned mind. Jonny Bairstow, almost.
 
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Sid and the Sharknados

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Never mind spirit of the game, there is a specific law covering this.

A batsman cannot be given out run out if he is out of his ground in the mistaken belief he is already out.

IIRC this happened to an England player in a test match in the Carribean years ago. Batter was bowled but did not see or hear the "no-ball", in heading for the pavilion, he was run out, but after some discussion between the umpires, was reprieved.
I think that situation is specific to no-balls, if you read law 38.2.2:

"38.2.2 The striker is not out Run out in any of the circumstances in 38.2.2.1 and 38.2.2.2....

38.2.2.2 No ball has been called and he/she is out of his/her ground not attempting a run and the wicket is fairly broken by the wicket-keeper without the intervention of another fielder."


There's no reference to a batter not being out if they thought they'd already been dismissed. In any case, I think the rules around when the ball is dead/live are different in indoor cricket and it's basically always possible to be run out at any time. @Audax can probably correct me if I'm wrong.

I'd never advocate walking for an LBW anyway (aside from thinking that walking basically bullshit anyway but that's another matter). If a batter's confident enough about where the ball was going to go after hitting the pad to question the umpire either way, then they really should be asking themselves how they managed to miss the ball in the first place. :lolol:
 
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I'd never advocate walking for an LBW anyway (aside from thinking that walking basically bullshit anyway but that's another matter). If a batter's confident enough about where the ball was going to go after hitting the pad to question the umpire either way, then they really should be asking themselves how they managed to miss the ball in the first place. :lolol:
Nobody should ever, ever, under any circumstances be walking for an LBW. Simply put - its not actually possible for a batsman, looking AWAY from the stumps, to know with absolute certainty that the delivery would have struck them, or that it definitely hit his pads in line with them.

You can certainly know that you're in very great danger of being given out, but not that you definitely are.
 


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