You can't take anything like this for granted. I still think there are many women with Trump supporting husbands who will vote for Harris and never tell another soul.
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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President Elect 2025
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You can't take anything like this for granted. I still think there are many women with Trump supporting husbands who will vote for Harris and never tell another soul.
RexCathedra
Aurea Mediocritas
Laser-like focus on the issues that really matter:
apnews.com
Trump kicks off a Pennsylvania rally by talking about Arnold Palmer's genitalia
His campaign suggested Donald Trump would begin previewing his campaign’s closing arguments in a final push to win over voters with Election Day barely two weeks off.
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It's well known that Trump's "policies" and actions have never been based on what he believes will be good for America.
His decision making has always been based on whether the people who will be affected by his decisions have shown loyalty to him,. Making him President gives him the power to make human life and death part of that transaction of loyalty which he has already demonstrated he is only too willing to use....
www.rollingstone.com
His decision making has always been based on whether the people who will be affected by his decisions have shown loyalty to him,. Making him President gives him the power to make human life and death part of that transaction of loyalty which he has already demonstrated he is only too willing to use....
Trump's Closing Pitch to Voters: I Will Let You Die If You Don't Bow to My Demands
Donald Trump's first term in office proved he's not bluffing when he threatens to base life-or-death decisions based on whether people support him.
www.rollingstone.com
Crawley Dingo
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- Mar 31, 2022
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That's not true, yes he denied it at first then got up to speed and overtook most of Europe in vaccinations. Most of the excess deaths are due to comorbidities, a Large percentage of Americans are very fat and lazy.
This comorbidity piece is flicking useless to those families and friends in the US who lost loved ones to it. My nephews father lives in Portland, they were staunch Trump supporters, never got vaccinated, and then lost a grandparent to it, split the family politics in half now.
Had Trump from the outset advised as most sensible countries did, that they lock down, the elderly people try and avoid it and get vaccinated, there is a high possibility they would still be here. Even with a relatively mild underlying health condition. But no, Trump advised drinking bleach, light bulbs and ivermectin, an anti parastic more commonly used in horses and cows.
This comorbidity piece is like saying "don't worry you were going to die already, so your number doesn't count"....
Bonkers...
aolstudios
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Hope you're right
Yes it is true, and you're right, he denied it was a concern.
The US developed vaccines without Trump's authority (they didn't need it) because the experts knew he was wrong.
While the demographics would impact the outcome, a lot of deaths were also due to Trump's ignorance and not enforcing lockdowns.
The states themselves had the final say on lockdowns and how they implemented them.
If Oregan wanted to lockdown, they didn't need to wait on Trump to do so, Oregan ordered a stay at home pretty early.
There was a lot of debate at the time of Trump had the power to even order a national lockdown, which was the reason for the disjointed approach and different guidelines, the only things he can force shut down are airports etc - which they did.
The bleach stuff etc I agree with
Yes Oregon did only a couple of weeks behind us I recall, but the dialog from Trump encouraged lots of people not to believe, and so many actively ignored the order.
- Oct 20, 2022
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NewYork also went ahead with a lockdown before Trump announced it nationally.
And not sure anyway we should be throwing stones in glass houses about how our leaders managed the Covid pandemic tbh
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Madafwo
I'm probably being facetious.
- Nov 11, 2013
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Shows you the cut of their jib at the time! Madness....
According to many Republicans there isn't even one that is accurate, NOT EVEN the OFFICIAL ONE on the first Tuesday in November.
Cuomo said himself Trump had no power to overrule him, so it's on Cuomo for the fall out, the care home policy was a disgrace.
I'm getting flashbacks from those awful celebrity videos about him now.
Can't really have it both ways
I understand why some states didn't want to work with Trump though!
One of my best friends didn't believe in vaccines and passed from covid. There was a bad choice there but some say it was due to Trump.
I think this is exactly it..The horrific danger of disinformation in a pandemic...
BN41Albion
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- Oct 1, 2017
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He didn't, but he spread lies and misinformation around covid, masks, vaccines etc (because of course he would - it's Trump!) that his fanatics lapped up, which undoubtedly caused deathsBecause Trump caused covid.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Yep - It was an awful time - I have family in NY and they were terrified.
Cuomo did not come out of that period smelling of roses!