[Food] Bread

happypig · Oct 15, 2024

Next time I make a loaf in the breadmaker (probly thursday) I'll use a power monitor and report back how much it costs.

Albion in the north · Oct 15, 2024

burnee54 said:
Kingsmill is Halal certified. Personally I won't buy it on pricipal, although saying that isn't all bread Halal?

No. Some breads contain additives that mean they are not Halal.

Cheshire Cat · Oct 15, 2024

Professor Plum said:
The longer the use-by date, the more full of UPF, preservatives and other crap it's likely to have.

I'm another make-my-own type. I tend to use my Panasonic breadmaker to make the dough, then I take it out, let it rise, and whack it in the oven. The whole process takes about 3.5 - 4 hours though the actual time spent doing anything is less than 10 minutes. I sometimes use the machine to do the whole thing on 'rapid' setting which takes 3 hours.

I've had the machine for about 22 years now and it's easily the best kitchen gadget we've ever bought. It's used on average twice a week to ensure we're never out of stock. I keep bread in the fridge from day 2. From day 3, if we have any left, it's still fine to eat as it is but we tend to toast it from that point. Around day 3 or 4 it's time to think about making another loaf.

Occasionally I'll make sourdough but this is far more labour intensive and takes well over a day from start to finish, preparing the starter, stretching/folding the dough, letting rest overnight blah blah. Tastes great but a bit too much hassle to do it all the time.

Panasonic are fab

jackanada · Oct 15, 2024

Cotton Socks said:
Gotta find it, get us a share
makin' bread out of nothin' but air.

That was well under everyone's radar and deserves more recognition!

I originally opened this thread hoping it was about the lovable benefit scroungers sitcom.

dsr-burnley · Oct 15, 2024

burnee54 said:
Kingsmill is Halal certified. Personally I won't buy it on pricipal, although saying that isn't all bread Halal?

Does that mean they use a ritually pure bread slicer? I could easily understand the principal of not buying halal meat, but not halal wheat.

The Clamp · Wednesday at 12:35 AM

I eat bread very seldomly. Maybe a few times in winter with soup or sandwich from a services if I’m in a rush.

So I won’t be buying a bread maker.

My Mum used to make it and it came out rock hard. Ghastly.

DavidinSouthampton · Wednesday at 7:54 AM

jcdenton08 said:
Why is it that all loaves of regular sliced bread (we get Warburtons) are so short date nowadays?

On delivery from any of the supermarkets, it’s usually next day best before, and green within 4-5 days. I don’t remember this being the case in the past… Now I keep it in the freezer and just defrost as needed.

It’s kept where it’s always been kept (cool dark, dry place in kitchen)

I worked part-time for Waitrose until about 5 years ago and I’m sure the training for the people doing online shopping orders was about giving the longest sell by dates they could find.

thedonkeycentrehalf · Wednesday at 9:32 AM

It's surprising how many people also don't know the simple trick to 'refresh' old bread when you buy a decent loaf by slightly dampening the bread and then putting it into a warm oven for a few minutes.

happypig · Thursday at 9:16 AM

happypig said:
Next time I make a loaf in the breadmaker (probly thursday) I'll use a power monitor and report back how much it costs.

Made a loaf in the breadmaker last night. It used 0.7kW/h of electric so cost about 15p. 500g of flour is about 45p , yeast 18p. a few p for the salt, sugar, milk powder, olive oil.
So a large (800g) loaf costs me about 80p, about half what it costs in the shop.

jcdenton08 · Thursday at 9:17 AM

happypig said:
Made a loaf in the breadmaker last night. It used 0.7kW/h of electric so cost about 15p. 500g of flour is about 45p , yeast 18p. a few p for the salt, sugar, milk powder, olive oil.
So a large (800g) loaf costs me about 80p, about half what it costs in the shop.

How long did it take you?

happypig · Thursday at 9:18 AM

jcdenton08 said:
How long did it take you?

3 hours in the machine. I can put one together while the kettle's boiling for a nice cup of tea

nicko31 · Thursday at 9:27 AM

Er in doors is into sour dough, started using it for making pizzas. Bloody great results and hard to buy unless you live somewhere posh

Professor Plum · Thursday at 8:15 PM

thedonkeycentrehalf said:
It's surprising how many people also don't know the simple trick to 'refresh' old bread when you buy a decent loaf by slightly dampening the bread and then putting it into a warm oven for a few minutes.

In my student rollup-smoking days I used to revive dried out tobacco by putting a lettuce leaf in my Old Holborn tin.

banjo · Thursday at 8:17 PM

nicko31 said:
Er in doors is into sour dough, started using it for making pizzas. Bloody great results and hard to buy unless you live somewhere posh

Professor Plum · Thursday at 8:56 PM

happypig said:
Made a loaf in the breadmaker last night. It used 0.7kW/h of electric so cost about 15p. 500g of flour is about 45p , yeast 18p. a few p for the salt, sugar, milk powder, olive oil.
So a large (800g) loaf costs me about 80p, about half what it costs in the shop.

I’ve never bothered with milk powder. It’s mentioned in my old Panasonic recipe book but I’ve not used it, nor ‘vitamin C powder’ which is also listed in all the recipes. I use just flour, water and yeast, and sometimes a dash of honey and/or olive oil. And sometimes random seeds, depending on what I’m making.

Thanks for the stats. Interesting. Economy doesn’t really figure in my reasons but it’s good to know that’s it’s cheaper. If you make bread frequently it’s worth buying flour in bulk.

cloud · Friday at 12:32 PM

Professor Plum said:
it’s good to know that’s it’s cheaper. If you make bread frequently it’s worth buying flour in bulk.

The risk of buying flour in bulk is weevils

MTSeagulls · Friday at 2:30 PM

cloud said:
The risk of buying flour in bulk is weevils

I think I read somewhere that if you put flour in the freezer for 15 minutes it kills any eggs present.

MTSeagulls · Friday at 2:32 PM

The only bread we can get here is white and a bit sweet.
Found this recipe on youtube which works well for us. We also have a bread machine to make sandwich breadm

Edit: video seems to have been disabled for other platforms so I'll write the channel below.

MTSeagulls · Friday at 2:35 PM

The channel is called Voila - Voila! and the video is called the 5 minute baguette.

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