But my point was we had this huge debate about fans getting ripped off, I think TS had over an hour of phone calls, in his defence Simon Jordan played Devils Advocate throughout, but ultimately nothing changed, so they pulled this 'stunt' whatever you want to call it, won 1-0 and effectively got away with charging what they wanted to.
Why is it irony? You’re talking about a fan, not the football club. The FSA guy who is often in the media talking about the FSA, is a Newcastle fan, and has made it clear that he’s very uncomfortable with what’s happened at his club. Not sure if it’s the same guy but anyway, you shouldn’t conflate fans with clubs. In fact, it’s because fans and clubs are often so far apart that organisation like the FSA are necessary.
Playing devils advocate here.
I don’t think the score has any relevance. The fact that some fans paid / were able to pay is only half the story. The fact remains that many loyal fans will have had to miss their biggest game in decades, while other fans who felt they couldn’t miss it, will have paid up and created financial difficulties for themselves and their families while the millionaire players and well-rewarded club management would be beaming about the extra cash they’ve creamed off the fans.
Agreed. Understand the decision because the optics aren't quite right with that particular banner. But football as most of us know it is about to be completely consumed by avarice and collapse under its weight. A massive shift towards tourist and TV money over normal fans will see the soul ripped out of the game if it hasn't been already. While the optics aren't perfect I'd rather the common fan stand together whenever they can and not break ranks. And rather than avoid it completely, try harder to articulate our position rather than wondering what everyone else might make of it.
I reckon we should ask some Ipswich fans to do our banner - that way it won’t offend anyone, as no one will have a clue as to what it’s about.
Totally agree.
Everybody here will agree with that
But that is the very definition of the meaning of exploitation. Exploiting loyalty of home grown natural fans while a half interested audience across the glove watches for peanuts on TV.It was extremely disappointing to see after the initial furore of Aston Villa intention to charge fans £97 a seat to sit in non corporate sections of Villa Park for the visit of Bayern Munich in the CL.
Stan Collymore and others right across the media, its disgusting, an insult to the Villa fans etc, etc, then nothing.......
The ticket price didn't change and Villa beat Bayern in front of a full house
Yes we should very much be supporting other fans. I’m concerned by the fact we appear to have no line of communication with Tony Bloom explaining who we’re doing it for and reminding him most (if not all) are greatful for what he has done/does for us.
Indeed. In fact many fans (not all I might add) were of the opinion "Best £97 I ever spent"...It was extremely disappointing to see after the initial furore of Aston Villa intention to charge fans £97 a seat to sit in non corporate sections of Villa Park for the visit of Bayern Munich in the CL.
Stan Collymore and others right across the media, its disgusting, an insult to the Villa fans etc, etc, then nothing.......
The ticket price didn't change and Villa beat Bayern in front of a full house
"FSA - Exploitation is fan not good with money. Credit cards"I reckon we should ask some Ipswich fans to do our banner - that way way it won’t offend anyone, as no one will have a clue as to what it’s about.
These people really can't complain then when the club go back to them with more sky high ticket prices
