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[Albion] Tomer Hemed
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macbeth
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brighton_tom
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- Jul 23, 2008
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So in that is Tomer describing upsetting scenes he has witnessed? Has he been out there?
pigmanovich
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Hope the club does the right thing and parts ways.
brighton_tom
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- Jul 23, 2008
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Just found the full post and had a read. Seems like he has at some point spent some time with ZAKA. Wikipedia says ZAKA is a voluntary organization that collects and buries the remains of victims of violence, accidents and disasters in Israel.
macbeth
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that argument maybe holds water in a universe where it isn’t common knowledge that the IDF have also killed thousands upon thousands of civilians and children
I’m trying to understand exactly what has been said. The first post by Leyla Hamed seems to be taking a quote made about very specific people and trying to imply it was made about all Palestinians, at least that’s how it reads to me.
The post in question is a week old, so presume there has been no fall out from it.
As @Munkfish states, if the post is meant to describe only the perpetrators of the violence in such terms, then it’s probably ‘okay’ - even if such language is better avoided.
In general there will have been absolutely no doubt of the Hemed’s views before he was offered his new role. I had to unfollow Mrs Hemed on instagram, as the constant myopic stream of Israeli state / IDF propaganda was unsettling. Tomer himself has until now been far more measured.
As @Munkfish states, if the post is meant to describe only the perpetrators of the violence in such terms, then it’s probably ‘okay’ - even if such language is better avoided.
In general there will have been absolutely no doubt of the Hemed’s views before he was offered his new role. I had to unfollow Mrs Hemed on instagram, as the constant myopic stream of Israeli state / IDF propaganda was unsettling. Tomer himself has until now been far more measured.
BrickTamland
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Yeah zero other context here is there…
Calling other groups of humans animals during a wave of mass violence has never ended badly before has it…
You can (and should) point out the horrendous and despicable crimes committed (by whichever side) but you can do that without feeding into the blood thirst.
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Alternatively, he is reacting to a terrible scene he became aware of whilst working alongside the organisation listed above. Sometimes folk get upset, especially at stuff like that. Unless someone can add or provide further context, I see no wrong here.
I think that's correct. I don't think he's describing Palestinians, I think he's describing the terrorists who brutally murdered civilians. I certainly hope that's all he's describing.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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It's not great.
I think it's fairly clear he's describing the people who have committed barbaric acts against his countrymen, and is not a direct comment about palestinians in general.
Hopefully the club have/will have a word with him and see if it's appropriate for him to carry on in his role.
I think it's fairly clear he's describing the people who have committed barbaric acts against his countrymen, and is not a direct comment about palestinians in general.
Hopefully the club have/will have a word with him and see if it's appropriate for him to carry on in his role.
Uh_huh_him
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Sure people post some stuff when they have an emotional reaction to horrific ithings.
Calling for someone to die a horrible death, in revenge for their crimes, is not ideal though.
Particularly on a platform, where he also associates himself with the club.
Club probably needs to have a word about what he posts in future.
If he thinks that's too much to ask, there are plenty of other ex players, who could do that job.
- Apr 5, 2014
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The point here is that we are sitting in our safe and comfortable castles thousands of miles away giving someone a lecture about how they react to horrible things that have happened to innocent women and children and things they have seen.
That's a task I find difficult to do when I think about being in their shoes.
AstroSloth
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People have a problem because that's not what the "journalist" is reporting, they're stating it as if he thinks that of all Palestinians when his post is clearly about the Hamas terrorists.
People aren't looking at what was actually said, just what was reported.
Hope Hemed sues her for libel.
Uh_huh_him
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Yeah I don't disagree.
But he has a job where he is representing a football club.
His Instagram has plenty of pictures of him wearing club kit.
I understand why he's posted what he's posted, but I don't think it's unreasonable, for his employer to discuss it with him.
jackalbion
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- Aug 30, 2011
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He’s been pretty vocal on the subject, and his wording is pretty terrible (if not intentional), I think having an employee regularly pose with a military organisation which doesn’t exactly have unanimous support, and isn’t exactly squeaky clean isn’t exactly a great look, for a club that welcomes all, is very inclusive and is generally apolitical.
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Seriously calm down.
This was a perfectly understandable reaction after jihadist terrorists stormed the Kibbutzim a year ago and long before it became obvious that thousands of innocent Palestinians would die in a punishing war on Gaza.
Whoever retweeted months after the event this was troublemaking.
Just realised it was Leyla Hamed who is a respected journalist but also a devout Muslim and Palestinian activist so understandable why she would be upset at the language.
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